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I'm a fan of eclipse, but this release reveals an interesting thing about the organization, they aren't very effective at communication. If this had been an in

I'm a fan of eclipse, but this release reveals an interesting thing about the organization, they aren't very effective at communication. If this had been an intellij release, a bunch of screenshots would have been on their main page and each main feature would have had a small explanation. As I write this, one of the commenters has mentioned 'dark theme.' Forget about being on the main page, I had a hard time googling it. Ironically, as far as I know, it was eclipse which started "New and Noteworthy" pages with each release (that's development release, not even main release). Every google link to such pages is now broken as well. As intellij is picking up steam, eclipse is actually regressing (at least in the marketing department).

caniszczyk 12y ago
It's an open source foundation with a set of loosely distributed set of projects and teams. The New and Noteworthy screenshots are here for Luna: https://www.eclipse.org/eclipse/news/4.4/eclipse_news_4.4.php https://www.eclipse.org/eclipse/news/4.4/eclipse_news_4.4.ph... I would report a bug against the old N&N pages not being available (via Community): https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/ https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/
- aks314 12y ago
  That is an excellent new features guide, but it really needs to be placed alongside a release announcement on the front page. Also these 2 links seem similar but are really different, a bit confusing: https://www.eclipse.org https://www.eclipse.org https://www.eclipse.org/home https://www.eclipse.org/home
agumonkey 12y ago
A few years ago (2005-2008) they were more into communication, they made the first synchronous release (eclipse + lead subprojects). Since then they went under the radar.
- smrtinsert 12y ago
  Well tbh its like clockwork. This is a team that yearly releases tons of updates, when its that regular you dont really promotion. I'm always downloading first day. The only compatibility issue I found was with stupid Perforce which hasn't been updated to the latest icu4j yet. That's amazing for the 50 or so plugins I run. Other than that I use community plugins (Perforce mandated by employer)
VonGuard 12y ago
They may suck at marketing, but Mike gave me a pretty in-depth briefing. Have a gander: http://www.sdtimes.com/content/article.aspx?ArticleID=71423&page=1 http://www.sdtimes.com/content/article.aspx?ArticleID=71423&...

caniszczyk 12y ago

It's an open source foundation with a set of loosely distributed set of projects and teams. The New and Noteworthy screenshots are here for Luna: https://www.eclipse.org/eclipse/news/4.4/eclipse_news_4.4.php https://www.eclipse.org/eclipse/news/4.4/eclipse_news_4.4.ph... I would report a bug against the old N&N pages not being available (via Community): https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/ https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/

aks314 12y ago
That is an excellent new features guide, but it really needs to be placed alongside a release announcement on the front page. Also these 2 links seem similar but are really different, a bit confusing: https://www.eclipse.org https://www.eclipse.org https://www.eclipse.org/home https://www.eclipse.org/home

agumonkey 12y ago

A few years ago (2005-2008) they were more into communication, they made the first synchronous release (eclipse + lead subprojects). Since then they went under the radar.

smrtinsert 12y ago
Well tbh its like clockwork. This is a team that yearly releases tons of updates, when its that regular you dont really promotion. I'm always downloading first day. The only compatibility issue I found was with stupid Perforce which hasn't been updated to the latest icu4j yet. That's amazing for the 50 or so plugins I run. Other than that I use community plugins (Perforce mandated by employer)

VonGuard 12y ago

They may suck at marketing, but Mike gave me a pretty in-depth briefing. Have a gander: http://www.sdtimes.com/content/article.aspx?ArticleID=71423&page=1 http://www.sdtimes.com/content/article.aspx?ArticleID=71423&...