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I listen to a lot of mashups. Previously a lot of mashup artists hosted their tunes on SC. Lately. SC has been deleting the entire profile of many of these arti

by nthitz 12y ago

I listen to a lot of mashups. Previously a lot of mashup artists hosted their tunes on SC. Lately. SC has been deleting the entire profile of many of these artists, or just removing all/many of their songs. Some of these people only used SC for hosting so it is an unfortunate loss. Still quite a grey area if mashups are fair use. (Girl Talk has an album for sale on iTunes)

aikah 12y ago
Nothing grey here. Since when one choose the license of the product one uses? Not getting caught violating a license=/= grey area. If you write a software and state one must pay 100$ to use it, and you find that software sold on ebay without the seller giving you a cent,or in a torrent , would you call it "grey area"? So why things have to be different with music or movies? If you ask me ,did I ever pirate something,i'd answer yes of course I did like most of us. But I would never try to justify my actions by saying "Oh but you know it's kind of grey".It's not,i'm violating a license by enjoying something i got through illegal means.There is no grey area here. Let's stop the hypccrisy. Mashups are not fair use.Would be like saying sampling is fair us,it makes no sense.If you dont have the explicit authorization from the artist or the label you cant just use something you didnt created that is not public domain.There is no grey area here.
- nthitz 12y ago
  I appreciate your comments. But I wouldn't compare the distribution of an identical copy of other's copyrighted content with mashups. Mashups are usually transformative, as opposed to merely derivative. The EFF has interesting thoughts on the subject [1]. I wouldn't equate mashups to piracy quite like you, but I can see where you are coming from. [1] https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2012/05/rip-mca-tribute-pauls-boutique-and-music-sampling https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2012/05/rip-mca-tribute-pauls-...
  - anigbrowl 12y ago
    Transformative is not a binary thing. Most mashups are not that transformative, and indeed many depend upon ease of recognition for their appeal.
- bo1024 12y ago
  That is just your opinion -- legally, it has not been clarified whether mashups constitute fair use or not. There are arguments on both sides. See for example http://lawprofessors.typepad.com/media_law_prof_blog/2012/03/mashups-and-copyright.html http://lawprofessors.typepad.com/media_law_prof_blog/2012/03...

by nthitz 12y ago

aikah 12y ago

Nothing grey here. Since when one choose the license of the product one uses? Not getting caught violating a license=/= grey area. If you write a software and state one must pay 100$ to use it, and you find that software sold on ebay without the seller giving you a cent,or in a torrent , would you call it "grey area"? So why things have to be different with music or movies? If you ask me ,did I ever pirate something,i'd answer yes of course I did like most of us. But I would never try to justify my actions by saying "Oh but you know it's kind of grey".It's not,i'm violating a license by enjoying something i got through illegal means.There is no grey area here. Let's stop the hypccrisy. Mashups are not fair use.Would be like saying sampling is fair us,it makes no sense.If you dont have the explicit authorization from the artist or the label you cant just use something you didnt created that is not public domain.There is no grey area here.

nthitz 12y ago
I appreciate your comments. But I wouldn't compare the distribution of an identical copy of other's copyrighted content with mashups. Mashups are usually transformative, as opposed to merely derivative. The EFF has interesting thoughts on the subject [1]. I wouldn't equate mashups to piracy quite like you, but I can see where you are coming from. [1] https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2012/05/rip-mca-tribute-pauls-boutique-and-music-sampling https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2012/05/rip-mca-tribute-pauls-...
- anigbrowl 12y ago
  Transformative is not a binary thing. Most mashups are not that transformative, and indeed many depend upon ease of recognition for their appeal.
bo1024 12y ago
That is just your opinion -- legally, it has not been clarified whether mashups constitute fair use or not. There are arguments on both sides. See for example http://lawprofessors.typepad.com/media_law_prof_blog/2012/03/mashups-and-copyright.html http://lawprofessors.typepad.com/media_law_prof_blog/2012/03...