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I really can't see the need for premature bans. Has there been a significant amount of accidents involving the use of delivery drones? I don't think so, so why

I really can't see the need for premature bans. Has there been a significant amount of accidents involving the use of delivery drones? I don't think so, so why potentially limit your competitiveness? :(

ProAm 12y ago
Because there is a lot to consider in densely packed cities. If these interfere with public utilities but hitting power lines, or crashing into homes, or school play grounds, etc... I have no issue with them planing ahead in this scenario, and do not feel it has anything to do with competitiveness.
sp332 12y ago
418 U.S. military drones have crashed so far. http://www.washingtonpost.com/sf/investigative/2014/06/22/crashes-mount-as-military-flies-more-drones-in-u-s/ http://www.washingtonpost.com/sf/investigative/2014/06/22/cr... Do you think commercial drones will be better-maintained or have more experienced pilots? I don't.
- bdamm 12y ago
  The Air Force vets that I know say that civilian aircraft during peace time are maintained better than AF aircraft were during war time. Also, it's fair to say that the AF doesn't really care about the potential for ground casualties in the event of a mechanical failure. Let's look at it this way; how many US drones have been captured by enemy forces? Crashing is one thing; falling into the hands of an opponent who can study the device is a mission aspect that the AF and other agencies do care about. More than a handful?
  - wavefunction 12y ago
    You're saying the AF doesn't care if a drone has a possibility of crashing into our own troops? That seems to be unlikely.
    - dkokelley 12y ago
      I think the implication is that a military drone is flying over the enemy. But taking a more realistic approach, a drone failure/crash in any current military theater is unlikely to hit anybody. We're not doing much flying over heavily populated/urbanized areas as far as I'm aware.
- derwiki 12y ago
  Military drones are very different than $400 quadcopters.
- Houshalter 12y ago
  These are very very different types of aircraft. Sort of like saying a few submarines have sunk therefore we are outlawing all boats.
  - skyebook 12y ago
    Beyond carrying weapons or higher-that-prosumer-quality video equipment, they are not all that different. UAS go from the sized aircraft one would typically think of as "military drone" to the small hand-launched aircraft used by people on the ground [0]. Using a submarine<->boat analog I'd argue with as the overall physics and operating principles of the two are hugely different. [0] http://www.theguardian.com/world/2012/jun/12/us-military-mini-drones-battlefield http://www.theguardian.com/world/2012/jun/12/us-military-min...
  - vegedor 12y ago
    if ca. 400 drones are 'a few', how many drones does the US Army have?
- mturmon 12y ago
  Hey, thanks for actually supplying a number and a source for the number. I find many of the other comments nearby are carping about details but not really addressing the point, which is that these things can and will crash, which is why they will be regulated somehow.
tzs 12y ago
Limit competitiveness between what parties?

ProAm 12y ago

Because there is a lot to consider in densely packed cities. If these interfere with public utilities but hitting power lines, or crashing into homes, or school play grounds, etc... I have no issue with them planing ahead in this scenario, and do not feel it has anything to do with competitiveness.

sp332 12y ago

418 U.S. military drones have crashed so far. http://www.washingtonpost.com/sf/investigative/2014/06/22/crashes-mount-as-military-flies-more-drones-in-u-s/ http://www.washingtonpost.com/sf/investigative/2014/06/22/cr... Do you think commercial drones will be better-maintained or have more experienced pilots? I don't.

bdamm 12y ago
The Air Force vets that I know say that civilian aircraft during peace time are maintained better than AF aircraft were during war time. Also, it's fair to say that the AF doesn't really care about the potential for ground casualties in the event of a mechanical failure. Let's look at it this way; how many US drones have been captured by enemy forces? Crashing is one thing; falling into the hands of an opponent who can study the device is a mission aspect that the AF and other agencies do care about. More than a handful?
- wavefunction 12y ago
  You're saying the AF doesn't care if a drone has a possibility of crashing into our own troops? That seems to be unlikely.
  - dkokelley 12y ago
    I think the implication is that a military drone is flying over the enemy. But taking a more realistic approach, a drone failure/crash in any current military theater is unlikely to hit anybody. We're not doing much flying over heavily populated/urbanized areas as far as I'm aware.
derwiki 12y ago
Military drones are very different than $400 quadcopters.
Houshalter 12y ago
These are very very different types of aircraft. Sort of like saying a few submarines have sunk therefore we are outlawing all boats.
- skyebook 12y ago
  Beyond carrying weapons or higher-that-prosumer-quality video equipment, they are not all that different. UAS go from the sized aircraft one would typically think of as "military drone" to the small hand-launched aircraft used by people on the ground [0]. Using a submarine<->boat analog I'd argue with as the overall physics and operating principles of the two are hugely different. [0] http://www.theguardian.com/world/2012/jun/12/us-military-mini-drones-battlefield http://www.theguardian.com/world/2012/jun/12/us-military-min...
- vegedor 12y ago
  if ca. 400 drones are 'a few', how many drones does the US Army have?
mturmon 12y ago
Hey, thanks for actually supplying a number and a source for the number. I find many of the other comments nearby are carping about details but not really addressing the point, which is that these things can and will crash, which is why they will be regulated somehow.

tzs 12y ago

Limit competitiveness between what parties?