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"The 13 plaintiffs - four of them veterans of the U.S. military - deny they have links to terrorism and say they only learned of their no-fly status when they a
by middleclick 12y ago
"The 13 plaintiffs - four of them veterans of the U.S. military - deny they have links to terrorism and say they only learned of their no-fly status when they arrived at an airport and were blocked from boarding a flight."
This truly fits the definition of a Kafkaesque system -- you are put on a list and you are denied justice and never told what your crime is.
Great work by the ACLU.
- swalsh 12y agoOnly made worse by the fact that they gave a few of what is for most people the most productive years of their lives to defend it.
- revelation 12y agoWell, in many cases there is no crime. Given the ridiculous amount of people on the list and the way the form is designed, a large number will be on there due to a "mistake" in filling out the form. Theres an excerpt of the form here: http://papersplease.org/wp/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/vgtof-form.png http://papersplease.org/wp/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/vgtof-... Notice how you have to check the box to indicate someone is not to be added to the list. It is completely counter-intuitive. I'd say it is just badly designed, but we're far beyond innocent mistakes here, at this point there needs to be judicial and personal responsibility for the people involved in its creation and ongoing maintenance.
- chris_wot 12y agoThe court raises issues of quality assurance in their discussion of the issues surrounding the case. They noted the issues but made no judgement, but it seems likely to me that the Court wasn't very impressed.
- zhengyi13 12y agoApart from the cognitive difficulties this creates, forcing you to check the box means the default is to add someone to the no-fly list (see Dan Ariely's research)