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You asserted that crimes where the police might need to barge in without knocking in order to prevent destruction of evidence are most likely nonviolent crimes.
by chc 12y ago
You asserted that crimes where the police might need to barge in without knocking in order to prevent destruction of evidence are most likely nonviolent crimes. In fact, that kind of situation is almost exclusively drug crime, and the drug world is a violent place.
As I said, the fact that no-knock SWAT teams are sent in indiscriminately is bad, but it doesn't mean that crimes where evidence can be flushed down the toilet are "a non-violent crime, probably."
The problem is not that SWAT raids are victimizing an otherwise "probably non-violent" drug world. The problem is that many law-enforcement officers behave in a cowardly way, where the prioritize their well-being over that of the public, so they treat people who are not hardened drug lords as though they were — just in case. That is the big problem.
- opendais 12y ago> You asserted that crimes where the police might need to barge in without knocking in order to prevent destruction of evidence are most likely nonviolent crimes. In fact, that kind of situation is almost exclusively drug crime, and the drug world is a violent place. > As I said, the fact that no-knock SWAT teams are sent in indiscriminately is bad, but it doesn't mean that crimes where evidence can be flushed down the toilet are "a non-violent crime, probably." http://www.nleomf.org/facts/officer-fatalities-data/causes.html http://www.nleomf.org/facts/officer-fatalities-data/causes.h... Alcohol is more dangerous than all drug related crimes combined to LEO. Not just raids. anything. Please provide statistical evidence that a drug arrest is more violent/dangerous than other arrests. Please also provide evidence that a large percentage of these arrest involve violent offenders. And nothing you've said precludes what I said should happen [ search the premise when its unoccupied ].
- opendais 12y agoIt has been about a day without a response so I'm assuming you lack such sources/evidence to support your claim.
- chc 12y agoYou are demanding data to support the idea that drug rings are associated with violence. That demand does not suggest to me that this will lead to a productive conversation regardless of how I answer. So if you want to believe that associates of Mexican drug lords are all hippie antiwar activists, I guess I am not going to be the one to disabuse you of that notion.
- opendais 12y agoActually, I'm demanding data that drug arrests are more dangerous than other arrests. Or really any data supporting your position in general. I'm not sure how that wasn't clear when I explicitly stated it. Instead of doing this, you continue to make up ridiculous misrepresentations of what I've said.