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The HN submission is a wee bit inflamatory (the bill gives "Obama" the kill switch) The actual title of the article is "Senate Bill Would Give President Emergen

The HN submission is a wee bit inflamatory (the bill gives "Obama" the kill switch) The actual title of the article is "Senate Bill Would Give President Emergency Control of Internet". Aside from that, surely there's a more appropriate (i.e. technically credible) source for the HN readership than Fox News.

DanielBMarkham 17y ago
Can we just let the whole Fox News vendetta go for a bit? Please? The web is full of all kinds of sources -- that's why we double and triple-source interesting news tidbits we see. Continuing to trash one or the other sources that don't fit your ideals is just so much noise to everybody else who don't share your views. Hell -- for controversial articles I check sources on everything. So it's not germane to the nature of the story, which should stand (along with the title) on it's own merit.
- jcromartie 17y ago
  They are known for being inflammatory and wildly inaccurate. Fox News has a tendency (or some of their pundits) to take an incorrect technical view and run with it in a totally insane direction. Example: Glenn Beck and a guest going on at great length about how the "Cash For Clunkers" program's website allowed the gov't to tap into your computer and seize all of your computer files, and install a "tracking cookie" that let them "tap into your system at any time in the future." They failed to mention that the scary EULA this nonsense was based on was only for participating dealer employees to access, and not something that the general public could even find if they wanted to.
  - cema 17y ago
    Yes, Fox is known for being inflammatory. However, all mainstream general-purpose media sources are known to be very inaccurate. (I say "general" because reports by subject-oriented media are usually done with a higher degree of accuracy and by people who understand the subject matter better than an average person, or an average journalist.) So, take them all with a grain of salt. And do not let your political, religious and other biases affect your judgment. Okay? :-)
  - DanielBMarkham 17y ago
    I'm sorry, you passsed my "who cares?" limit after the first few words. Sources vary. Some media outlets have different standards than others. Like everything else, don't stereotype! By impeaching an entire news organization -- it's just idiotic. I'm sure somewhere there's a good Fox news reporter writing a good story. So let the stories stand on their own merits instead of trying to convince people not to listen to anything anybody from place "X" has to say. That's simple-minded. This is just simple logic. I'm reminded of the fact that the National Enquirer broke every major news story about John Edward's love child. Each time they were trashed by the mainstream press -- if I remember correctly, the first story hung out for weeks while nobody else would touch it and the Edwards' campaign mocked it -- but each time their story turned out to be totally accurate. And these are the guys who run "Elvis visited me in a UFO" stuff. I'm not saying I like that kind of story, but it proves the point that impeaching entire news organizations is idiotic at best.
- GiraffeNecktie 17y ago
  My argument is not so much against the politics of Fox News (although let me say they sure got some wild-ass nutbars on that channel!) but against that whole mediocre genre of "technical" reporting in which I'd include BBC as one of the worst offenders. This is, after all, "hacker news" not the dumbed down mainstream soundbite news.
harold 17y ago
Reminds me of an old chinese proverb: "My neighbor came to my workplace to tell me my house was on fire. But I hate my neighbor, and chose to ignore him. When I got home, my house was no more. "

DanielBMarkham 17y ago

Can we just let the whole Fox News vendetta go for a bit? Please? The web is full of all kinds of sources -- that's why we double and triple-source interesting news tidbits we see. Continuing to trash one or the other sources that don't fit your ideals is just so much noise to everybody else who don't share your views. Hell -- for controversial articles I check sources on everything. So it's not germane to the nature of the story, which should stand (along with the title) on it's own merit.

jcromartie 17y ago
They are known for being inflammatory and wildly inaccurate. Fox News has a tendency (or some of their pundits) to take an incorrect technical view and run with it in a totally insane direction. Example: Glenn Beck and a guest going on at great length about how the "Cash For Clunkers" program's website allowed the gov't to tap into your computer and seize all of your computer files, and install a "tracking cookie" that let them "tap into your system at any time in the future." They failed to mention that the scary EULA this nonsense was based on was only for participating dealer employees to access, and not something that the general public could even find if they wanted to.
- cema 17y ago
  Yes, Fox is known for being inflammatory. However, all mainstream general-purpose media sources are known to be very inaccurate. (I say "general" because reports by subject-oriented media are usually done with a higher degree of accuracy and by people who understand the subject matter better than an average person, or an average journalist.) So, take them all with a grain of salt. And do not let your political, religious and other biases affect your judgment. Okay? :-)
- DanielBMarkham 17y ago
  I'm sorry, you passsed my "who cares?" limit after the first few words. Sources vary. Some media outlets have different standards than others. Like everything else, don't stereotype! By impeaching an entire news organization -- it's just idiotic. I'm sure somewhere there's a good Fox news reporter writing a good story. So let the stories stand on their own merits instead of trying to convince people not to listen to anything anybody from place "X" has to say. That's simple-minded. This is just simple logic. I'm reminded of the fact that the National Enquirer broke every major news story about John Edward's love child. Each time they were trashed by the mainstream press -- if I remember correctly, the first story hung out for weeks while nobody else would touch it and the Edwards' campaign mocked it -- but each time their story turned out to be totally accurate. And these are the guys who run "Elvis visited me in a UFO" stuff. I'm not saying I like that kind of story, but it proves the point that impeaching entire news organizations is idiotic at best.
GiraffeNecktie 17y ago
My argument is not so much against the politics of Fox News (although let me say they sure got some wild-ass nutbars on that channel!) but against that whole mediocre genre of "technical" reporting in which I'd include BBC as one of the worst offenders. This is, after all, "hacker news" not the dumbed down mainstream soundbite news.

harold 17y ago

Reminds me of an old chinese proverb: "My neighbor came to my workplace to tell me my house was on fire. But I hate my neighbor, and chose to ignore him. When I got home, my house was no more. "