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Here's my attempt at running the numbers: Scenario one: Company takes out an insurance policy for $1,000,000 on an employee. The expected remaining life of the
by ganeumann 12y ago
Here's my attempt at running the numbers:
Scenario one:
Company takes out an insurance policy for $1,000,000 on an employee. The expected remaining life of the employee is 20 years. The expected return on investment is 5%. The insurance company prices the contract so they make 10% of the returns. The company pays $32,000 per year for 20 years, then gets the $1,000,000 payout.
In the insurance policy scenario, the company gets $1,000,000, with no taxes owed, a gain of $360,000.
Scenario two:
The company invests this $640,000 ($32,000/year * 20 years) on its own on the same schedule and with the same expected return on investment. They earn approx. $1,111,000 and owe capital gains tax on the $471,000 gain, which at a rate of 15% is $71,000, for a net gain of $400,000.
Scenario two: investing the money themselves and paying cap gains, makes more sense than scenario one: buying insurance. Unless the insurance company is taking less than a 7% vig.
- thedufer 12y agoI'm not saying your math is wrong, but I'm confused as to how the breakeven can be a 7% cut when the capital gains rate is 15%. Can you explain why my intuition is wrong here?
- ganeumann 12y agoBecause it's only 15% of the gain, whereas both investment gains and customer payments are revenue to the insurance company and I've assumed the insurance company needs to keep some percentage of their revenue to pay overhead expenses, marketing, commissions, etc.