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Ask Stack Overflow for Atom

165 points by Chris911 12y ago

drtse4 12y ago
Copy-Paste, evolved.
hemmer 12y ago
This might be an interesting idea for a vim plugin too, need to teach myself vim-script first...
dgabriel 12y ago
This is really neat, and it will probably be very useful to some people, but it sets off some very loud warning bells in my head. Is s/o really for copypasta mining? Sometimes, I guess... but still.
- Timmmmmm 12y ago
  I agree. I mean, I can see it being useful for things that you "know" how to do but just forgot the syntax... But the chances that a random javascript snippet on SO are right seems pretty damn low to me!
- notJim 12y ago
  > Is s/o really for copypasta mining? Based on the questions there, it's primarily for that.
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rjzzleep 12y ago
i guess the vim, sublime, etc people that don't know it yet are gonna be happy, because it means that they'll find out about howdoi now: https://github.com/gleitz/howdoi https://github.com/gleitz/howdoi pip install howdoi vim plugin: https://github.com/laurentgoudet/vim-howdoi https://github.com/laurentgoudet/vim-howdoi one of the emacs plugins: https://github.com/atykhonov/emacs-howdoi https://github.com/atykhonov/emacs-howdoi one of the sublime plugins: https://github.com/azac/sublime-howdoi-direct-paste https://github.com/azac/sublime-howdoi-direct-paste
- Chris911 12y ago
  howdoi uses Google to find results on Stack Overflow while I used the Stack Exchange API for this package. I'm a bit disappointed with the results returned by the API both sorted by relevance and by votes. Down the road I'd like to merge the results from Google and the API to get the best set of answers.
- fidlefodl 12y ago
  Love the links, ty!
thegeomaster 12y ago
I think this is less useful than it looks like. When editing code, I'm not browsing StackOverflow or switching to StackOverflow so much that the actual Alt+Tab-ing to the browser window is the bottleneck. And when I do Alt+Tab to the browser window, I usually search Google for what I want to achieve, and yes, most of the times I end up on StackOverflow, but sometimes other sites, most notably Wikipedia, can help me better. Periods when I'm on StackOverflow are more of a small research session within a development session. Quick look-ups constitute a smaller fraction of my Google searches, especially when I work in an environment/language I have grokked. Pasting from the answers I see even less useful. What was the last time you actually pasted verbatim a code snippet from a StackOverflow answer? In 95% of the cases, I read the answer to get an idea and then implement it appropriately in my code. Such copy/paste solutions are most often just hackjobs full of kludges that are worth marginally more than a pile of dog shit.
- Achshar 12y ago
  > I'm not browsing StackOverflow or switching to StackOverflow so much that the actual Alt+Tab-ing to the browser window is the bottleneck. Ever used multiple monitors? I used to have the exact same issue but multiple monitors save so much minimize maximize time.
  - thegeomaster 12y ago
    Perhaps my wording wasn't clear enough—I was actually saying that minimize-maximize time wasn't a bottleneck in my case because I don't switch so much. But I agree with you, multiple monitors would help tremendously. Even more so when doing some web development work, when changes can be immediately previewed.
- nmjohn 12y ago
  It depends what language I'm working with. Is it one I've used for years? My questions tend to be much more abstract and structure oriented, and I rarely copy anything verbatim. However if it is something I have less experience with, or just starting to learn, most of my queries I am concerned with the exact details and end up copying verbatim more frequently.
Dolimiter 12y ago
Genuine question. Are people actually using Atom in production projects? I found it unusably slow because it's browser-based; a generation behind Sublime Text in speed.
- jbrooksuk 12y ago
  I set myself a target to use it for a day, but it slowed me down far too much and I ditched it within three hours. I'm going to try again when there is more stability and speed.
- BinaryIdiot 12y ago
  I am. I was heavily using Sublime but switched over for a trial period to see if I liked it. Overall I'm quite happy with it; it's incredibly snappy for me (almost as snappy as Sublime) but it's start-up time is a bit slower. So for now I'll probably keep using it but on some larger files it can become slower much quicker than Sublime or others. Fortunately I practically never work with large files so it's not that big of a deal.
- ulisesrmzroche 12y ago
  I switched to Sublime from Vim because it looked prettier, but Atom looks better out the box. Also, Sublime barely moves on my 09 tiny macbook air, while Atom performs well. On the 2014 iMac, slowdowns on big files I barely noticed, what I don't like is that if you have the editor open forever, it starts moaning like a dying whale, regardless of the beefiness of your rig.
  - mbillie1 12y ago
    >I switched to Sublime from Vim because it looked prettier I find this to be a very curious reason to switch from Vim... were you a very experienced Vim user? Ever give MacVim a shot for the different color schemes? Don't get me wrong, I like my editor to look nice also, but Sublime isn't exactly a prettier version of Vim - they have very different strengths and weaknesses.
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mrwnmonm 12y ago
github, we want atom on linux
- reubensutton 12y ago
  You can compile it for Linux now that it is open-source, I believe people have made binaries too, e.g: http://www.webupd8.org/2014/05/install-atom-text-editor-in-ubuntu-via-ppa.html http://www.webupd8.org/2014/05/install-atom-text-editor-in-u...
- andyhmltn 12y ago
  If you are comfortable building from source it's already out. I've had it installed for a few months now
notastartup 12y ago
Is there a precompiled binary for windows somewhere? Why is it only available for Mac? I think this feature is very useful.
- Notre1 12y ago
  You can install it via Chocolatey. If you already have Chocolatey installed, then just run: C:\> cinst Atom http://chocolatey.org/packages/Atom http://chocolatey.org/packages/Atom
  - notastartup 12y ago
    that is super nice.
- someguy1233 12y ago
  You can use my builds, http://atom.someguy123.com http://atom.someguy123.com They're well tested by a lot of people, and I offer both stable and unstable releases
mariusmg 12y ago
Same thing for VisualStudio/Bing http://visualstudiogallery.msdn.microsoft.com/a1166718-a2d9-4a48-a5fd-504ff4ad1b65 http://visualstudiogallery.msdn.microsoft.com/a1166718-a2d9-...
surganov 12y ago
Dash App also have an offline Stack Overflow access (20gb): http://blog.kapeli.com/offline-stack-overflow http://blog.kapeli.com/offline-stack-overflow (great for developing on the airplane)
shekhar101 12y ago
This is neat. I use a similar tool on VS 2013 [0]. MS launched it very recently. It's called Bing code search. Pretty nifty, Although it's lot advanced but I hope tools like this grow to be better and comparable to this one. Anyone using vs 2013, do check this out. [0] http://visualstudiogallery.msdn.microsoft.com/a1166718-a2d9-4a48-a5fd-504ff4ad1b65 http://visualstudiogallery.msdn.microsoft.com/a1166718-a2d9-...
CmonDev 12y ago
Microsoft did it before: http://blogs.msdn.com/b/visualstudio/archive/2014/02/17/introducing-bing-code-search-for-c.aspx http://blogs.msdn.com/b/visualstudio/archive/2014/02/17/intr... http://visualstudiogallery.msdn.microsoft.com/a1166718-a2d9-4a48-a5fd-504ff4ad1b65 http://visualstudiogallery.msdn.microsoft.com/a1166718-a2d9-...
jpollock 12y ago
Watch out for the license. The source appears to be licensed under CC-BY-SA, which at the very least requires attribution, and might be GPL3-style viral. http://meta.stackexchange.com/questions/12527/do-i-have-to-worry-about-copyright-issues-for-code-posted-on-stack-overflow http://meta.stackexchange.com/questions/12527/do-i-have-to-w... http://blog.stackoverflow.com/2009/06/attribution-required/ http://blog.stackoverflow.com/2009/06/attribution-required/ http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/2.5/ http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/2.5/
fermiz 12y ago
Personally, I am shocked that everyone applaudes such a thing on HackerNews. Is that what programming means nowadays ? Copy-pasting random code snippets from StackOverflow, gluing them with other code snippets found elsewhere and hoping that it compiles. Anyway, OP seems to have done a good job; he has identified what modern programming means and provided an excellent tool to increase today programmers productivity. Excellent ... and hopeless.
vxNsr 12y ago
seems to be done atm. here's a cached version: http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:https://atom.io/packages/ask-stack&ion=1&espv=2 http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:https:/...
aniketpant 12y ago
I see it is a pretty useless package because switching to Stack Overflow once in a while isn't a big productivity hit for me. I would prefer not having anything except my project code on my window.
pizza 12y ago
plagiarism y/n?

165 points by Chris911 12y ago

drtse4 12y ago

Copy-Paste, evolved.

hemmer 12y ago

This might be an interesting idea for a vim plugin too, need to teach myself vim-script first...

dgabriel 12y ago

This is really neat, and it will probably be very useful to some people, but it sets off some very loud warning bells in my head. Is s/o really for copypasta mining? Sometimes, I guess... but still.

Timmmmmm 12y ago
I agree. I mean, I can see it being useful for things that you "know" how to do but just forgot the syntax... But the chances that a random javascript snippet on SO are right seems pretty damn low to me!
notJim 12y ago
> Is s/o really for copypasta mining? Based on the questions there, it's primarily for that.

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rjzzleep 12y ago

i guess the vim, sublime, etc people that don't know it yet are gonna be happy, because it means that they'll find out about howdoi now: https://github.com/gleitz/howdoi https://github.com/gleitz/howdoi pip install howdoi vim plugin: https://github.com/laurentgoudet/vim-howdoi https://github.com/laurentgoudet/vim-howdoi one of the emacs plugins: https://github.com/atykhonov/emacs-howdoi https://github.com/atykhonov/emacs-howdoi one of the sublime plugins: https://github.com/azac/sublime-howdoi-direct-paste https://github.com/azac/sublime-howdoi-direct-paste

Chris911 12y ago
howdoi uses Google to find results on Stack Overflow while I used the Stack Exchange API for this package. I'm a bit disappointed with the results returned by the API both sorted by relevance and by votes. Down the road I'd like to merge the results from Google and the API to get the best set of answers.
fidlefodl 12y ago
Love the links, ty!

thegeomaster 12y ago

I think this is less useful than it looks like. When editing code, I'm not browsing StackOverflow or switching to StackOverflow so much that the actual Alt+Tab-ing to the browser window is the bottleneck. And when I do Alt+Tab to the browser window, I usually search Google for what I want to achieve, and yes, most of the times I end up on StackOverflow, but sometimes other sites, most notably Wikipedia, can help me better. Periods when I'm on StackOverflow are more of a small research session within a development session. Quick look-ups constitute a smaller fraction of my Google searches, especially when I work in an environment/language I have grokked. Pasting from the answers I see even less useful. What was the last time you actually pasted verbatim a code snippet from a StackOverflow answer? In 95% of the cases, I read the answer to get an idea and then implement it appropriately in my code. Such copy/paste solutions are most often just hackjobs full of kludges that are worth marginally more than a pile of dog shit.

Achshar 12y ago
> I'm not browsing StackOverflow or switching to StackOverflow so much that the actual Alt+Tab-ing to the browser window is the bottleneck. Ever used multiple monitors? I used to have the exact same issue but multiple monitors save so much minimize maximize time.
- thegeomaster 12y ago
  Perhaps my wording wasn't clear enough—I was actually saying that minimize-maximize time wasn't a bottleneck in my case because I don't switch so much. But I agree with you, multiple monitors would help tremendously. Even more so when doing some web development work, when changes can be immediately previewed.
nmjohn 12y ago
It depends what language I'm working with. Is it one I've used for years? My questions tend to be much more abstract and structure oriented, and I rarely copy anything verbatim. However if it is something I have less experience with, or just starting to learn, most of my queries I am concerned with the exact details and end up copying verbatim more frequently.

Dolimiter 12y ago

Genuine question. Are people actually using Atom in production projects? I found it unusably slow because it's browser-based; a generation behind Sublime Text in speed.

jbrooksuk 12y ago
I set myself a target to use it for a day, but it slowed me down far too much and I ditched it within three hours. I'm going to try again when there is more stability and speed.
BinaryIdiot 12y ago
I am. I was heavily using Sublime but switched over for a trial period to see if I liked it. Overall I'm quite happy with it; it's incredibly snappy for me (almost as snappy as Sublime) but it's start-up time is a bit slower. So for now I'll probably keep using it but on some larger files it can become slower much quicker than Sublime or others. Fortunately I practically never work with large files so it's not that big of a deal.
ulisesrmzroche 12y ago
I switched to Sublime from Vim because it looked prettier, but Atom looks better out the box. Also, Sublime barely moves on my 09 tiny macbook air, while Atom performs well. On the 2014 iMac, slowdowns on big files I barely noticed, what I don't like is that if you have the editor open forever, it starts moaning like a dying whale, regardless of the beefiness of your rig.
- mbillie1 12y ago
  >I switched to Sublime from Vim because it looked prettier I find this to be a very curious reason to switch from Vim... were you a very experienced Vim user? Ever give MacVim a shot for the different color schemes? Don't get me wrong, I like my editor to look nice also, but Sublime isn't exactly a prettier version of Vim - they have very different strengths and weaknesses.
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mrwnmonm 12y ago

github, we want atom on linux

reubensutton 12y ago
You can compile it for Linux now that it is open-source, I believe people have made binaries too, e.g: http://www.webupd8.org/2014/05/install-atom-text-editor-in-ubuntu-via-ppa.html http://www.webupd8.org/2014/05/install-atom-text-editor-in-u...
andyhmltn 12y ago
If you are comfortable building from source it's already out. I've had it installed for a few months now

notastartup 12y ago

Is there a precompiled binary for windows somewhere? Why is it only available for Mac? I think this feature is very useful.

Notre1 12y ago
You can install it via Chocolatey. If you already have Chocolatey installed, then just run: C:\> cinst Atom http://chocolatey.org/packages/Atom http://chocolatey.org/packages/Atom
- notastartup 12y ago
  that is super nice.
someguy1233 12y ago
You can use my builds, http://atom.someguy123.com http://atom.someguy123.com They're well tested by a lot of people, and I offer both stable and unstable releases

mariusmg 12y ago

Same thing for VisualStudio/Bing http://visualstudiogallery.msdn.microsoft.com/a1166718-a2d9-4a48-a5fd-504ff4ad1b65 http://visualstudiogallery.msdn.microsoft.com/a1166718-a2d9-...

surganov 12y ago

Dash App also have an offline Stack Overflow access (20gb): http://blog.kapeli.com/offline-stack-overflow http://blog.kapeli.com/offline-stack-overflow (great for developing on the airplane)

shekhar101 12y ago

This is neat. I use a similar tool on VS 2013 [0]. MS launched it very recently. It's called Bing code search. Pretty nifty, Although it's lot advanced but I hope tools like this grow to be better and comparable to this one. Anyone using vs 2013, do check this out. [0] http://visualstudiogallery.msdn.microsoft.com/a1166718-a2d9-4a48-a5fd-504ff4ad1b65 http://visualstudiogallery.msdn.microsoft.com/a1166718-a2d9-...

CmonDev 12y ago

Microsoft did it before: http://blogs.msdn.com/b/visualstudio/archive/2014/02/17/introducing-bing-code-search-for-c.aspx http://blogs.msdn.com/b/visualstudio/archive/2014/02/17/intr... http://visualstudiogallery.msdn.microsoft.com/a1166718-a2d9-4a48-a5fd-504ff4ad1b65 http://visualstudiogallery.msdn.microsoft.com/a1166718-a2d9-...

jpollock 12y ago

Watch out for the license. The source appears to be licensed under CC-BY-SA, which at the very least requires attribution, and might be GPL3-style viral. http://meta.stackexchange.com/questions/12527/do-i-have-to-worry-about-copyright-issues-for-code-posted-on-stack-overflow http://meta.stackexchange.com/questions/12527/do-i-have-to-w... http://blog.stackoverflow.com/2009/06/attribution-required/ http://blog.stackoverflow.com/2009/06/attribution-required/ http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/2.5/ http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/2.5/

fermiz 12y ago

Personally, I am shocked that everyone applaudes such a thing on HackerNews. Is that what programming means nowadays ? Copy-pasting random code snippets from StackOverflow, gluing them with other code snippets found elsewhere and hoping that it compiles. Anyway, OP seems to have done a good job; he has identified what modern programming means and provided an excellent tool to increase today programmers productivity. Excellent ... and hopeless.

vxNsr 12y ago

seems to be done atm. here's a cached version: http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:https://atom.io/packages/ask-stack&ion=1&espv=2 http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:https:/...

aniketpant 12y ago

I see it is a pretty useless package because switching to Stack Overflow once in a while isn't a big productivity hit for me. I would prefer not having anything except my project code on my window.

pizza 12y ago

plagiarism y/n?