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I find it somewhat ironic that the people who are most staunchly advocating the superiority of rationality in their replies to my post are displaying the greate
by haberman 12y ago
I find it somewhat ironic that the people who are most staunchly advocating the superiority of rationality in their replies to my post are displaying the greatest cognitive bias by advancing a position that no one has offered any empirical evidence for.
And just to clarify, I wasn't even arguing that optimism is better than rationality. I am only calling into question the assumption that it is necessarily worse.
In other words, the article (in my opinion) assumed that R > O always. I wanted to challenge this assumption that argue that R <?> O. I am not arguing, as some people seem to suppose, that O > R always.
> Maybe depressive realism is better for getting things done - if, you know, you can get the 'realism' without the 'major mental disorder' part.
Maybe, but that is pure speculation that has no support.
Seligman's book offers a fair amount of evidence that optimists out-perform pessimists (the latter is not the same as being depressed, though they are correlated) in many areas of life.
> And why didn't you consider manic-depressive disorder? If being optimistic is so great, surely being manic is even greater...
Again, pure speculation. "More of a good thing is always better" is not a principle you can reasonably assume.
- gwern 12y ago> In other words, the article (in my opinion) assumed that R > O always. I wanted to challenge this assumption that argue that R <?> O. I am not arguing, as some people seem to suppose, that O > R always. So, you don't have evidence for it, you don't believe it, yet you're going to argue aggressively for it and call me biased to boot. What distinguishes your comments from garden-variety trolling?
- haberman 12y ago> So, you don't have evidence for it If by "it" you mean "O > R always", then no, I don't have evidence for it nor do I believe it. What I do believe and have a whole book of evidence for is "not (R > O always)". That is what I am arguing for, and have been from my very first message. My opinion of "not (R > O always)" would only be controversial if you believe that "R > O always". But "R > O always" has no evidence supporting it (at least none that anyone has presented or that I am aware of).