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Coding is much safer, comfortable, low-stress, well-paying, flexible (esp. for mothers), and employable than those jobs.

by ceras 12y ago

wyager 12y ago
>Coding is much safer, comfortable, low-stress, well-paying, flexible (esp. for mothers), and employable than those jobs. So we're back to the good ol' days of "women shouldn't do hard labor"?
- vdaniuk 12y ago
  What a red herring. We're in a good future days of "nearly no one should do hard labor".
  - wyager 12y ago
    >What a red herring. I don't think that means what you think it means. Regardless, it seems strange to me that people are pushing for advertising coding to women in the name of gender equality, but then they seem not to care about the number of women in fields that aren't perceived so highly. I think it really throws their motivations into question.
    - vdaniuk 12y ago
      Perhaps, strawman would be a better characteristic of your post as you were trying to distort the argument of other party. And no, it doesn't seem strange to me that people are pushing women to learn coding. Coding skills provide great income, stability, mobility and independence. So yeah, thanks Google and others, who are trying to get more women in coding and increase their quality of life.
      - wyager 12y ago
        >Coding skills provide great income, stability, mobility and independence. So why not try to make these skills more accessible to everyone?
        vdaniuk 12y ago
        Isn't it obvious? Adoption of skills depends on the ecosystem of practitioners. Empirically, we are observing that women do not copy social behavior of the male part of the ecosystem and do not engage the subject of programming/coding/compsci. We need to reach a threshold value, a tipping point where girls and women would see enough role models and would have enough support networks to progress in the technology industry. This may be achieved by reaching a critical mass and that is exactly what Google and others are doing.

Coding is much safer, comfortable, low-stress, well-paying, flexible (esp. for mothers), and employable than those jobs.

by ceras 12y ago

Coding is much safer, comfortable, low-stress, well-paying, flexible (esp. for mothers), and employable than those jobs.

wyager 12y ago

>Coding is much safer, comfortable, low-stress, well-paying, flexible (esp. for mothers), and employable than those jobs. So we're back to the good ol' days of "women shouldn't do hard labor"?

vdaniuk 12y ago
What a red herring. We're in a good future days of "nearly no one should do hard labor".
- wyager 12y ago
  >What a red herring. I don't think that means what you think it means. Regardless, it seems strange to me that people are pushing for advertising coding to women in the name of gender equality, but then they seem not to care about the number of women in fields that aren't perceived so highly. I think it really throws their motivations into question.
  - vdaniuk 12y ago
    Perhaps, strawman would be a better characteristic of your post as you were trying to distort the argument of other party. And no, it doesn't seem strange to me that people are pushing women to learn coding. Coding skills provide great income, stability, mobility and independence. So yeah, thanks Google and others, who are trying to get more women in coding and increase their quality of life.
    - wyager 12y ago
      >Coding skills provide great income, stability, mobility and independence. So why not try to make these skills more accessible to everyone?
      - vdaniuk 12y ago
        Isn't it obvious? Adoption of skills depends on the ecosystem of practitioners. Empirically, we are observing that women do not copy social behavior of the male part of the ecosystem and do not engage the subject of programming/coding/compsci. We need to reach a threshold value, a tipping point where girls and women would see enough role models and would have enough support networks to progress in the technology industry. This may be achieved by reaching a critical mass and that is exactly what Google and others are doing.