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downvote me if you wish but honestly the rationality movement seems like it is more interested in being elite than anything meaningful. If all the rationality

downvote me if you wish but honestly the rationality movement seems like it is more interested in being elite than anything meaningful. If all the rationality movement can provide as a measure of success is just higher performance on some silly tests designed by psychologists to essentially trick you with wording then I would want nothing to do with it.

vertex-four 12y ago
Unfortunately, one of my social IRC channels - one which used to revolve primarily around respect for emotions - got invaded by a certain well-known rationalist Internet community. Immediately, where channel operators hadn't been required for the past four years, they were left having to enforce simple rules on the new people, which they inevitably argued against. Every other week, there are serious issues involving violation of social etiquette. Now, this isn't a problem with "aspies", as some might think. The channel, before this, had a remarkably high concentration of people with aspergers, and some with autism. This is a problem with people who honestly do not see emotions as a thing that they should care about. That is the rationalist movement at its core, for all they talk about, from my perspective.
- dthunt 12y ago
  Please elaborate; I would like to know more about this incident.
gdewilde 12y ago
right! So lets make this a discussion about: Alien abduction Alien implants Alien space crafts Cold fusion Drawing energy from magnetic fields noble gas engines plasma reactors gravity engines making gold from other elements turning water into pure hydrogen or pure oxygen Remote viewing Astral projection Summoning spirits Contacting the after life Wireless electricity HAARP chemtrails / RF chaff And of course animal rain to make it truly Fortean.[0] Try not to make arguments from ignorance, provide sources based on actual research. Oh, and don't confuse the examples for the topic! Enjoy! edit I see the fear of the unknown has already produced 1 down vote. I shouldn't be asking but I'm curious why. Perhaps I should explain a bit more: I think rationality is best tested where most people abandon it. If all of the above are not real we must have rational arguments for each item. I dont claim to know anything about the items beyond a bit of superficial googling. The arguments found on the web left much to be desired. I cant just copy other peoples opinion if they didn't arrive there logically. [0] - http://www.resologist.net/loei.htm http://www.resologist.net/loei.htm

vertex-four 12y ago

Unfortunately, one of my social IRC channels - one which used to revolve primarily around respect for emotions - got invaded by a certain well-known rationalist Internet community. Immediately, where channel operators hadn't been required for the past four years, they were left having to enforce simple rules on the new people, which they inevitably argued against. Every other week, there are serious issues involving violation of social etiquette. Now, this isn't a problem with "aspies", as some might think. The channel, before this, had a remarkably high concentration of people with aspergers, and some with autism. This is a problem with people who honestly do not see emotions as a thing that they should care about. That is the rationalist movement at its core, for all they talk about, from my perspective.

dthunt 12y ago
Please elaborate; I would like to know more about this incident.

gdewilde 12y ago

right! So lets make this a discussion about: Alien abduction Alien implants Alien space crafts Cold fusion Drawing energy from magnetic fields noble gas engines plasma reactors gravity engines making gold from other elements turning water into pure hydrogen or pure oxygen Remote viewing Astral projection Summoning spirits Contacting the after life Wireless electricity HAARP chemtrails / RF chaff And of course animal rain to make it truly Fortean.[0] Try not to make arguments from ignorance, provide sources based on actual research. Oh, and don't confuse the examples for the topic! Enjoy! edit I see the fear of the unknown has already produced 1 down vote. I shouldn't be asking but I'm curious why. Perhaps I should explain a bit more: I think rationality is best tested where most people abandon it. If all of the above are not real we must have rational arguments for each item. I dont claim to know anything about the items beyond a bit of superficial googling. The arguments found on the web left much to be desired. I cant just copy other peoples opinion if they didn't arrive there logically. [0] - http://www.resologist.net/loei.htm http://www.resologist.net/loei.htm