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Who owns http://hackerne.ws
- Hexstream 17y ago"Well, I don't plan in doing any kind of man-in-middle attack. Neither I am planning to selling the domain to a 3rd party." Well, I still think it's irresponsible to provide or use such a "service". I can't think it's good for security if people get in the habit of relying on potentially unreliable third-parties just for the heck of it. Why ask people to trust that you have only good intentions when that wouldn't even be necessary if you didn't provide a (IMHO less than worthless) "service"? I might sound harsh, but the whole matter just reeks of sloppiness to me.
- sh1mmer 17y agoIf the only reason is shortness of typing, why don't you use a bookmark? Even s60 browsers have those.
- helveticaman 17y agoSometimes you have to access something from cybercafes. I bought qwertqwert.com so I could access "Dvorak anywhere" quickly with a qwerty keyboard.
- sh1mmer 17y agoExcept that you don't seem to be doing anything with it.
- jordyhoyt 17y agoprotip: www
- sh1mmer 17y agoSo adding www makes his example completely moot. If shortness were an issue then why only use www.qwertqwert.com ?
- sokoloff 17y agoqwertqwert Ctrl-Enter is pretty short and works in most Windows browsers (such as you're likely to find in an internet cafe) (ctrl-enter adds a leading http://www http://www. and a trailing .com if either is missing)
- helveticaman 17y agogood point. thanks for the hint.
- jordyhoyt 17y agoI never claimed that his example was representative of a useful, short domain name, I simply pointed out that you came to a conclusion that was wrong after doing far too little research. If you have a problem with the length of his domain name, I'd suggest commenting to him, not me. The downmods are ridiculous, did I honestly distract from the conversation or did everyone disagree that putting www in front fixes it? This place is dying.
- lucumo 17y agoDomains that require www need to die.
- hrishi 17y agogoogle 'hn'.
- rms 17y agoWith autocomplete, typing can be faster than a bookmark when all you have to do is type "h" then press down and ok.
- simonsarris 17y agoAmusingly, all I do is type "n" and then press enter, and Google Chrome takes me here using the normal address.
- apotheon 17y agoI typically get as far as "new", but then, I routinely have more than a hundred tabs open in Firefox. If Chrom(e|ium) worked on FreeBSD, I'd probably be using that instead.
- Pistos2 17y agoI like leaving things open, but I'm really curious how having over 30 tabs is an improved user experience. The most common places I visit are either always etched in the address bar history, and so are reachable in a few keystrokes, or have outright aliases, so I can type a keyword and it transforms into a URL. Everything else is just a handful of keystrokes away, via Selfmarks (my bookmarks-on-the-internet service). How can you navigate among your tabs with any semblance of ease or speed?
- jey 17y agoYeah, I keep hearing of people (esp. power users) using web browsers with hundreds of tabs open, and I don't understand why they need so many, nor how it remains manageable/useful/navigable. When I end up with > 25 tabs, it usually just means I need to run a garbage collection cycle. Whatever the reason is, it's probably some use case(s) that could be better handled by the browser or an extension. Are they using all the tabs as a queue of stuff to read? That's a problem I run into, and I deal with it by keeping a vim buffer open with a list of URLs.
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- jmtulloss 17y agoHe explained in the article why he doesn't do a 301 redirect.
- tlrobinson 17y ago"I'd have to setup a server, which would enforce the notion that I am doing some kind of man-in-the-middle attack. There is also some obvious reason pointed out by HN members, no need to refer to it." The first one isn't a good reason. If it immediately redirects the user will then be at news.ycombinator.com, which can be trusted. What was the second reason? Also, pg could solve this by performing the redirect himself whenever the "Host" header is not equal to "news.ycombinator.com"
- qeorge 17y agoIts a good example of how poorly Google's duplicate content filter works[1]. But I agree, its quite deceptive. [1]http://www.google.com/search?q=site%3Ahackerne.ws http://www.google.com/search?q=site%3Ahackerne.ws
- deleted 17y ago[deleted]
- snprbob86 17y agoWhy not donate the domain to YCombinator?
- Zev 17y agohttp://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=84040 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=84040 (found via http://searchyc.com/hackerne.ws?sort=by_date_r http://searchyc.com/hackerne.ws?sort=by_date_r) — Sounds like he's offered to do so in the past.
- volida 17y agoLike Zev pointed out, I am willing to do so.
- cookiecaper 17y agoWhy should he donate it? He should sell it. If PG decides it adds usefulness, guy should at least get the purchase price back, if not more. Obviously it's just a convenient domain name, so he won't sell it for a lot of money, but should sell it for _something_. PG can afford a reasonably priced domain, I think.
- snprbob86 17y agoOr, PG could easily block it, rendering it useless.
- ratsbane 17y agoPG could configure the news.ycombinator.com server to return a 301 to any request which has a HOST header that's not news.ycombinator.com - either that or hardcode the domain name in links. I'm sure that Volida's motives are honest as he stated but this practice - buying a domain name that sounds like something popular and setting the A records to the intended site - has the potential to be used maliciously. All you'd have to do is wait for traffic to grow and then, in time, switch the DNS records to your own site. Of course, the HTTPS pages are going to show certificate problems while your A record is pointing at the original target - but many users will just go ahead and accept bad certificates. How would a legitimate site owner defend against this sort of thing? Would the solution I described in the top paragraph be effective? Has this ever been done maliciously?
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- erlanger 17y ago> Of course, the HTTPS pages What HTTPS pages?
- jey 17y agoThe hypothetical ones.
- gila 17y agoI don't know too much about web whatnots but couldn't this be done through virtualhosts? like say ip/other domains go to nothing or another place, domain.tld/subd.domain.tld goes to the main website? Or am I mistaken and this circumvents that?
- tlrobinson 17y agoSure, if he wanted to block it completely. Or he could just do the redirect with a simple check of the Host header.
- pageman 17y ago
- chanux2 17y agoI do not see a need of short or fancy URL for HN. BUT since it's out there and the owner is willing to donate, I think it's better PG getting it.
- loincloth 17y agohey, they managed to make a version of the site that is reasonably responsive. good for them!
- joubert 17y ago1) I don't think the domain adds a wide spread value (if any). 2) Dunno why people are getting their panties in a knot.
- christefano 17y agoThank you for posting this. Since the domain is registered at GoDaddy, it's trivial to set up a redirect. Just select the domain and click the "Forward" button. By the way, for someone who prefers to remain anonymous you don't make it very easy to post anonymously on your weblog.