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If there's nobody around, I'll often roll through a stop sign on my bike. Back in the UK, there's almost no stop signs, instead everything's yields or 'roundabo

If there's nobody around, I'll often roll through a stop sign on my bike. Back in the UK, there's almost no stop signs, instead everything's yields or 'roundabouts', which seem more efficient and safer, since they require more situational awareness. There's definitely suicidal bikers around blowing through stop lights and weaving through traffic, but I don't think that if they were gone, car drivers would be perfectly happy sharing the road with bikes. We're slow and a pain to pass, plus there's the occasional aura of moral superiority. :)

huhtenberg 17y ago
> the occasional aura of moral superiority. :) The aura of entitlement rather, the one that typically takes up a lane and a half. All in all, the hatred towards cyclists will not go anywhere until there is a proper cycling accommodations on the roads. Separate lanes, separate licenses and separate fines. With rights there should come the responsibilities, with responsibilities - the penalties and enforcement. Neither of that exists at the moment (at least here in Canada). If one wants to cycle - at least pass the exam, show you know the rules. Perhaps you learn that one must walk your damn bicycle when using a pedestrian zebra crossing and such. Instead what I am seeing is a righteous middle finger waving and yelling, and that does indeed makes me want nothing else but to run over such lovely road companions.
- antonovka 17y ago
  ... that does indeed makes me want nothing else but to run over such lovely road companions. Your automobile is not a toy, it is a multi-ton industrial machine. Killing people with it is not a joke. If you find that driving so aggravates you as to leave you feeling a desire to run bicyclists over, you need to reevaluate the amount of time you spend driving.
- jrockway 17y ago
  So much bitterness. This is why I lobby to ban cars. With everyone wanting to "run over" cyclists and pedestrians, I feel that non-commercial motor vehicles should be made illegal; they are just too dangerous in the hands of self-identified murderers.
  - ilostmypassword 17y ago
    How exactly do you lobby for the car ban ? Just curious.
- natrius 17y ago
  Even if you try to put bike lanes everywhere, left turns are still a fact of life. Cars and bikes have to coexist. If you regularly interact with cyclists, then I'm guessing you're on city streets with a speed limit of about 35 mph. If occasionally slowing down to 15 is that big of an inconvenience to you, then you should probably reevaluate things. Seriously. I explained why cyclists take lanes and you still insist on harboring animosity towards us for it. All for stealing valuable seconds from you. If people are stealing your right of way from you (which I see far too often) that's one thing. But you have a problem with law-abiding cyclists. That is odd to me.
  - igrekel 17y ago
    All I can say is that spending quite a while as a cyclist and a pedestrian I am now as the driver aware that I am the one sitting comfortably in almost a ton of steel who can speed up effortlessly.

huhtenberg 17y ago

> the occasional aura of moral superiority. :) The aura of entitlement rather, the one that typically takes up a lane and a half. All in all, the hatred towards cyclists will not go anywhere until there is a proper cycling accommodations on the roads. Separate lanes, separate licenses and separate fines. With rights there should come the responsibilities, with responsibilities - the penalties and enforcement. Neither of that exists at the moment (at least here in Canada). If one wants to cycle - at least pass the exam, show you know the rules. Perhaps you learn that one must walk your damn bicycle when using a pedestrian zebra crossing and such. Instead what I am seeing is a righteous middle finger waving and yelling, and that does indeed makes me want nothing else but to run over such lovely road companions.

antonovka 17y ago
... that does indeed makes me want nothing else but to run over such lovely road companions. Your automobile is not a toy, it is a multi-ton industrial machine. Killing people with it is not a joke. If you find that driving so aggravates you as to leave you feeling a desire to run bicyclists over, you need to reevaluate the amount of time you spend driving.
jrockway 17y ago
So much bitterness. This is why I lobby to ban cars. With everyone wanting to "run over" cyclists and pedestrians, I feel that non-commercial motor vehicles should be made illegal; they are just too dangerous in the hands of self-identified murderers.
- ilostmypassword 17y ago
  How exactly do you lobby for the car ban ? Just curious.
natrius 17y ago
Even if you try to put bike lanes everywhere, left turns are still a fact of life. Cars and bikes have to coexist. If you regularly interact with cyclists, then I'm guessing you're on city streets with a speed limit of about 35 mph. If occasionally slowing down to 15 is that big of an inconvenience to you, then you should probably reevaluate things. Seriously. I explained why cyclists take lanes and you still insist on harboring animosity towards us for it. All for stealing valuable seconds from you. If people are stealing your right of way from you (which I see far too often) that's one thing. But you have a problem with law-abiding cyclists. That is odd to me.
- igrekel 17y ago
  All I can say is that spending quite a while as a cyclist and a pedestrian I am now as the driver aware that I am the one sitting comfortably in almost a ton of steel who can speed up effortlessly.