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> Obviously not propped enough if this professor died in poverty and students need 6 figure loans to graduate. I argue that it is precisely because of governme

> Obviously not propped enough if this professor died in poverty and students need 6 figure loans to graduate. I argue that it is precisely because of government intervention that these things happen. > As opposed to what? Controlled by Coca-Cola? Starbucks? -- "Do you have a degree?" -- "I sure do, I graduated with MS in coffee arts (MsCA) from Starbucks University, Phoenix". Or just got a "PhD in applied lobbying from Lockheed". Are you implying that without government, we as a society would be unable to educate people? > The problem is not to just stop giving loans, but let people go to universities without needing loans. That will make universities even more inefficient. Do you know what will ensure "make sure it doesn't spend money on admin assistants, triple layers of bureaucracy, new gyms with lazy rivers and other crap that is not needed?" The fear of failure that universities don't experience now. The fear that if you don't do your job, students will not willingly give you money. "Harsh capitalism" solves that problem.

rdtsc 12y ago
> Are you implying that without government, we as a society would be unable to educate people? Well I don't have to imply you just have to show a few example of a successful world renown university run completely outside the control of a government. There are example of successful higher education institutions controlled and sponsored by governments. Western Europe has those example. > The fear of failure that universities don't experience now. Again, can you show one single example of a university outside the control of government that accomplishes and is driven by this mythical fear. > "Harsh capitalism" solves that problem Be honest now, have you been reading some Ayn Rand? That is fiction you know that, right?
alchemism 12y ago
> I argue that it is precisely because of government intervention that these things happen. It may very well be that the various 20th-century post-war G.I. Bills started the college bubble in the first place, by democratizing the expectation of higher education to the lower classes for the first time in history.

rdtsc 12y ago

> Are you implying that without government, we as a society would be unable to educate people? Well I don't have to imply you just have to show a few example of a successful world renown university run completely outside the control of a government. There are example of successful higher education institutions controlled and sponsored by governments. Western Europe has those example. > The fear of failure that universities don't experience now. Again, can you show one single example of a university outside the control of government that accomplishes and is driven by this mythical fear. > "Harsh capitalism" solves that problem Be honest now, have you been reading some Ayn Rand? That is fiction you know that, right?

alchemism 12y ago

> I argue that it is precisely because of government intervention that these things happen. It may very well be that the various 20th-century post-war G.I. Bills started the college bubble in the first place, by democratizing the expectation of higher education to the lower classes for the first time in history.