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What I meant, was initially people were pixel-painting fixed screens and 2D/3D graphic programming evolved as one branch, and GUI app frameworks evolved as anot
by diminish 12y ago
What I meant, was initially people were pixel-painting fixed screens and 2D/3D graphic programming evolved as one branch, and GUI app frameworks evolved as another (MacApp anyone?). If you look at earlier Mac/Windows/X app frameworks and iOS/Android app frameworks, you'll see that the latter is a more naive and easy solution to the same problem without the burden of multiple docs, windows and massive multitasking. I'm talking about windows, views, user interface controls, dialogs, textboxes, styling and finally inputs (events). HTML/CSS/JS is a string based natural solution to the same problem.
Finally, current native programming does not get its power from any advanced technique or technology but only due to its privileged position in an underpowered computing device with a smaller screens and newer touch input methods and hardware. This way, mobile GUI API designers didn't have most of the problems of large screen OS framework API designers had. When I look at their APIs, they are too simple, nothing fundamentally new.
So as mobile devices get better in general computing, a post html world may come back, with stringified description of UI elements.
- pjmlp 12y agoDevelopers that enjoyed access to Xerox PARC systems, RAD tooling, and environments like NeXTStep already had access to much better hypertext systems with layout support.
- malandrew 12y agoDo you have any good links/articles/discussions on these systems? I've read a bit about the origins of NeXTStep, but the work at PARC is something I know little about and RAD tooling is something completely new to me.
- pjmlp 12y agoSelf http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ox5P7QyL774 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ox5P7QyL774 Xerox Star User Interface http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cn4vC80Pv6Q http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cn4vC80Pv6Q http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ODZBL80JPqw http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ODZBL80JPqw Tektronix 4404 Smalltalk http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8yxCJfayW-8 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8yxCJfayW-8 The Smalltalk-80 Programming System http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JLPiMl8XUKU http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JLPiMl8XUKU The Final Demonstration of the Xerox 'Star' computer http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_OwG_rQ_Hqw http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_OwG_rQ_Hqw Symbolics Hypertext Document http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7DxYj32cvoE http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7DxYj32cvoE Warren Teitelman work at Xerox PARC https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7579613 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7579613 The Mesa/Cedar programming environment https://duckduckgo.com/l/?kh=-1&uddg=http%3A%2F%2Fbitsavers.trailing-edge.com%2Fpdf%2Fxerox%2Fparc%2FtechReports%2FCSL-83-11_The_Cedar_Programming_Environment_A_Midterm_Report_and_Examination.pdf https://duckduckgo.com/l/?kh=-1&uddg=http%3A%2F%2Fbitsavers.... Steve Jobs internal demo of NeXTSTEP 3, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gveTy4EmNyk http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gveTy4EmNyk Alan Kay on Xerox PARC work http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0oonXT-gYjU http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0oonXT-gYjU http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y43fI7Dy04A http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y43fI7Dy04A http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5QJTsPQQCCc http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5QJTsPQQCCc