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I half-agree with you, because there are some companies that use "fit" to determine how much they can use you as a "resource" rather than a human being. Where

I half-agree with you, because there are some companies that use "fit" to determine how much they can use you as a "resource" rather than a human being. Where I disagree is whether one has put themselves in a situation where they are desperate for a position at a company where they have to lie to pass the fit interview stage. I'd rather be honest and lose than lie, win and ultimately impugn my integrity. It is very refreshing when you already have a job and are looking for something new, then you can sit back and take a relaxed approach to finding a good company. Once one is found and you are interviewing with them (and interviewing them, as a previous commenter mentioned), then you can ask all the tough questions. If you don't like what you hear, vote with your feet and walk away. Now, this isn't always the situation people are in, so YMMV but I throw it out there as a piece of advice for anyone interviewing companies.

michaelochurch 12y ago
I fully agree with you... and yet we disagree on a matter about the outside world. My experience is that good companies are about 5%, at least weighted by jobs that are on the market. (There could be more good companies that are small or rarely have to hire.) I might be off and it might be higher, but not by much. They're rare, and they're selective, and they tend to grow slowly. Most people are going to have to swing from one crappy company to another until they find something good. Once you have something legit, you definitely want to hold on to it for a good few years. Also, on a practical note, there are good teams within crappy companies that are still worth working for. I wouldn't advise, say, most large tech companies or investment banks in general, but most of those huge companies have teams that are really good and make it worth taking the job. I'd rather be honest and lose than lie, win and ultimately impugn my integrity. I used to feel this way, but ultimately I'm of more use to the world if I'm occasionally willing to part with honesty. If I see someone in the grocery store who's 400 pounds, shouting "You're obese and if you don't stop eating that crap, you're gonna die!" does no one any favors. It's "honest", but worthlessly so.

michaelochurch 12y ago

I fully agree with you... and yet we disagree on a matter about the outside world. My experience is that good companies are about 5%, at least weighted by jobs that are on the market. (There could be more good companies that are small or rarely have to hire.) I might be off and it might be higher, but not by much. They're rare, and they're selective, and they tend to grow slowly. Most people are going to have to swing from one crappy company to another until they find something good. Once you have something legit, you definitely want to hold on to it for a good few years. Also, on a practical note, there are good teams within crappy companies that are still worth working for. I wouldn't advise, say, most large tech companies or investment banks in general, but most of those huge companies have teams that are really good and make it worth taking the job. I'd rather be honest and lose than lie, win and ultimately impugn my integrity. I used to feel this way, but ultimately I'm of more use to the world if I'm occasionally willing to part with honesty. If I see someone in the grocery store who's 400 pounds, shouting "You're obese and if you don't stop eating that crap, you're gonna die!" does no one any favors. It's "honest", but worthlessly so.