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The elections being discussed are performed over the internet, on the voters own computer. Where would the paper audit log be created, and how would you ensure

The elections being discussed are performed over the internet, on the voters own computer. Where would the paper audit log be created, and how would you ensure it accurately reflects what the voter chose on his (possibly compromised) PC? Edit: See the answer by user relix in this thread. This system does not solve the two issues I raised. As with all of these systems, they have to choose between "secure (verifiable) ballot" and "secret ballot". Estonia has clearly chosen the former. The problem with that is that now people can be pressured to vote in certain ways, as they can prove after the fact how they voted. This has not been a big problem in first world countries for a long time - but I don't think that's because people have fundamentally changed, but rather that nobody tries it because the paper ballot system effectively stops such voter intimidation/manipulation.

opendais 12y ago
1) It is called a printer. The voter prints his own ballot out. 2) Voter validates ballot visually on printer. If voter is unhappy with print out matching his ballot, he makes notes. 3) Voter mails print ballot in, regardless. Voting by mail is cheaper than voting in randomly selected first world location: http://californiawatch.org/dailyreport/cheaper-popular-mail-ballots-worry-critics-7479 http://californiawatch.org/dailyreport/cheaper-popular-mail-... So worst case scenario is you are paying for the internet system + the paper mail system. That is still probably cheaper than just a paper system. This system already exists and works without the issues you raise. So what if it is compromised? If the printout doesn't match, a voter can manually correct it. I'm uncertain why you would argue simultaneously: 1) Existing paper systems are good enough. 2) Existing paper systems used to verify internet ballots in the event of a dispute would not be good enough.

opendais 12y ago

1) It is called a printer. The voter prints his own ballot out. 2) Voter validates ballot visually on printer. If voter is unhappy with print out matching his ballot, he makes notes. 3) Voter mails print ballot in, regardless. Voting by mail is cheaper than voting in randomly selected first world location: http://californiawatch.org/dailyreport/cheaper-popular-mail-ballots-worry-critics-7479 http://californiawatch.org/dailyreport/cheaper-popular-mail-... So worst case scenario is you are paying for the internet system + the paper mail system. That is still probably cheaper than just a paper system. This system already exists and works without the issues you raise. So what if it is compromised? If the printout doesn't match, a voter can manually correct it. I'm uncertain why you would argue simultaneously: 1) Existing paper systems are good enough. 2) Existing paper systems used to verify internet ballots in the event of a dispute would not be good enough.