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>"U.S. citizenship is the most coveted citizenship in the world. To give it up, it has to be pretty serious," It's pretty serious to give up your birth citizen
by deciplex 12y ago
>"U.S. citizenship is the most coveted citizenship in the world. To give it up, it has to be pretty serious,"
It's pretty serious to give up your birth citizenship no matter where you're from. But, as someone with American citizenship, this doesn't ring particularly true for me. There are a number of passports I would trade, today, right now, for the one I currently hold. Anyone claiming American citizenship is the most coveted in the world is saying a lot more about themselves than they are the US.
- magamiako 12y agoQuite a few people I know would prefer to travel on an American passport because it offers less hassle than most other passports. We have fewer VISA requirements, etc. We have somewhat shot ourselves in the foot here or there since we tightened travel restrictions on some countries. But it's still an incredibly good passport to have for traveling.
- DenisM 12y agomagamiako, your account is hell-banned.
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- jessriedel 12y agoWhat countries's citizenships would you suppose is coveted by more people worldwide than the US?
- LammyL 12y agocanada?
- adamnemecek 12y agoswitzerland?
- WildUtah 12y agoAny EU citizenship is more useful and less dangerous and more lucrative and more flexible and subjects you to less world-wide paperwork, tax, and business restrictions. So Estonia, Poland, Romania, Bulgaria, Slovenia (or is it Slovakia?), Lithuania, Latvia, Slovakia (or Slovenia?), and Greece have more valuable passports for their citizens. If you travel a lot in East Asia, Japan's passport is awfully useful and has much nicer perks than US citizenship. Obviously, France, Britain, Canada, Germany, Italy, Sweden, and other core wealthy nations have much, much better deals for citizens, too. The US passport and citizenship is more and more like a third world quality passport every year, with one major exception. That exception, of course, is the right to live in the USA, which is a dang nice country with excellent open country, parks, forests, space to breathe free, big highways, fishing, hunting, the right to keep and bear arms, and fine honest people. But if you don't love this land, you're better off with Latverian or Hungarian or Freedonian citizenship, because our politicians have done squat to keep our citizenship valuable around the world.
- deciplex 12y agoThis. Also Iceland and NZ. Pretty much any developed country, really, because among those the US stands alone in subjecting its citizens to this onerous tax filing BS. Obviously, if you want to live in the US, that doesn't apply. Just plan on staying there, or only living abroad for a year or two.
- jessriedel 12y agoIt sounds like you're talking about the usefulness of citizenship for traveling. But the quotation discussed by deciplex, and his statements, are not qualified in this way. Extensive nation-hopping is not something most folks in the world can do. (The "onerous tax filing" being even more of a rich-person's problem.) I'd guess that the US citizenship is in fact the most coveted worldwide, all things considered.
- judk 12y agoIt's just WSJ rah rah blind patriotism and running interference for moneyed interests. Obviously USA has a lot more to offer a plantation worker in Honduras than a wealthy retiree who might need some medical care.