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Meet the New Filepicker Team

78 points by sethbannon 12y ago

kimba 12y ago
Odd. They tell us a new team was necessary, with a little detail but not enough to stop me wondering for more. Then, despite the title, they don't actually introduce the team. Just some tiny images and only their first names.
alaskamiller 12y ago
I've been using Filepicker from day 1. Never gave me trouble. Noticed they raised, tried for an ambitious strategy, since it wasn't part of my wheelhouse I quietly cheered them on. Yesterday while checking on something I logged in and noticed the Ink side disappeared and now they're introducing a new team. I love you guys but be honest, be merciless. What went wrong? Why drop Ink? Why the new team? It'll be better than this pablum PR puff.
fown9 12y ago
Looks like this YC company burned through 1.8M from Andressen Horowitz, and all of the original founders have left the company to work somewhere else. Sadly, no acqui-hire this time.
- pron 12y ago
  > Sadly, no acqui-hire this time. What are you talking about? This is much better than an acquihire. They've built a good product that people like; it just isn't VC material, as it turns out. So they've found a way to keep their good product going.
vampirical 12y ago
It would be great for one or more of the founders to do a postmortem write-up once any dust has settled. I had high hopes for Ink, seems like a shame. I'd imagine this comes at the end of a lot of work to get things transitioned so it is understandable that it is a bit light but it would definitely be good to hear more detail.
tommoor 12y ago
Well, this is the most ambiguous post i've read in a while. I think a little transparency here would have gone a long way to inspiring confidence in the new company/team
jc4p 12y ago
Eek. I used Filepicker at my last start-up and loved it. In fact, the website's still using it right now. I integrated it before it was called Ink, went through a rebrand, and now I'm left wondering if the old code I wrote is still going to work. I wish there was more context here and explained if the product was going away or not. On a personal note: I had talked with Brett and Anand repeatedly in the past, it would've been nice to get more details.
- toisanji 12y ago
  Glad you love the product, everything will work as before. I would extend that and say it will be more robust and faster then ever before.
  - cschmidt 12y ago
    You should understand that your blog post makes us filepicker users nervous. Please tell us more about what it going on. This is normally the feeling I get when I have to start planning a transition. Give us some fact, or plans even.
    - toisanji 12y ago
      We are doubling down on the product. We want to make sure everything is extremely stable first. We have an awesome roadmap that we will be sharing on the blog soon that outlines our plans to make filepicker the best service for dealing with files.
      - cschmidt 12y ago
        It isn't the product that has me worried - it is already very useful. It is the team and financing that is. Will you make it to cash flow positive? Will you survive? Is there at least a reasonable plan to get there?
        toisanji 12y ago
        cschmidt, Filepicker is growing fast,will survive, and has a very bright future ahead. We will be publishing our roadmap soon.
toisanji 12y ago
Thanks guys! Jason from Filepicker here. You’re right—Ink on mobile was too far ahead of its time. I’m still frustrated I don’t have a filesystem on my iDevices… that said, the core business of handling files for uploading no matter where they live couldn’t be more exciting for us. We’ve a huge roadmap and if you check out the blog you’ll see we’re starting to announce our updates already. Everything from new client libraries, iPhone iOS8 support, Metadata APIs to new transformations, data sources and much, much more coming. We’ll give a deeper update on the business once the dust settles but feel free to contact me directly if you have any questions about our service!
- shravvmehtaa 12y ago
  Hi Jason, What happened to the old team? Why did they quit? What happened to INK?
quickpost 12y ago
Off topic, but that sticky navigation at the top is ridiculously large / tall. It seemingly takes up 1/3 of the viewable browser area required for reading the actual "content". Crazy. (NOTE: Browser width must be at least 992px wide to see it).
- pyre 12y ago
  I only see navigation at the bottom, and it's less than 1/3 of the screen, though that may depend on your screen height as it has a fixed height.
fookyong 12y ago
The blog post won't load for me (dodgy airport wifi!), but I just want to say that Filepicker is one of the few SaaS services that I got instant value from and when they went from freemium to paid recently, I paid up right away. I really hope the service doesn't disappear!..
- toisanji 12y ago
  Jason from filepicker here, Its not going anywhere, we are expanding the service rapidly and have a full featured roadmap. I'm glad you can see the value!
  - mkal_tsr 12y ago
    As someone paying for Filepicker/Ink, it's been great to me ... but ... I've got to ask, as a customer... If I see rebrand, then all founders removed, why should I have confidence that this company is going to be sustainable and not just live off VC funding?
    - toisanji 12y ago
      just pinged you.
  - doctorpangloss 12y ago
    I'm not too worried about a rebrand. Very happy customer here :). Let me search something other than CC stuff. Just straight up enable Google images (or gasp, even Bing images).
prawn 12y ago
Where have the new team come from? Were they staff? Or did they buy it when the founders wanted to quit? What was Ink? Was that by the original founders or the new team? Maybe the new team could list their full names? Bit strange to have "meet the new team" but not have their names and where they've come from.
- jitl 12y ago
  Yeah, I feel like I've read only the epilogue to a long story. Would love a quick rundown of what lead to this anouncemnt.
- michaelbuckbee 12y ago
  "Ink" was a rebranding they did when they were attempting to move the service beyond just FileUploadingAsAService.
  - prawn 12y ago
    So FilePicker was replaced by Ink and now FilePicker has returned?
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brettcvz 12y ago
As the original founder and CEO, I can provide a bit of clarity. As with many startups, ours was a thrilling but ultimately tumultuous journey. At the end of the day, we ended up with a nice profitable lifestyle business (filepicker.io) and a big ambitious change-the-world product that we were not able to get traction with (Ink). The team decided that the right thing to do was to sell to someone that would: 1. Value and support existing customers 2. Return as much money as possible to investors, and 3. Allow the team to move on to new opportunities. (In priority order) I have a tremendous amount of respect for the new team, and actually think they will do a better job with filepicker.io, because they are committed to its success as a company and a business rather than some distant vision. For those who were fans of what we were trying to do at Ink (helping connect the apps and services that people use), I'm still committed to the dream and seeing if we can do it in a slightly different way at IFTTT. At some point I may do a more full post-mortem, for now if you have any questions hit me up at <my username>@gmail.com
- jonny_eh 12y ago
  As a customer of filepicker.io I've always been impressed by the quality of the product, documentation, and support. So far this seems like a classy way to move on, best of luck at IFTTT!
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jaequery 12y ago
im really curious to know how much the founders made from the deal.
aytekin 12y ago
Filepicker is a much better name. I am glad they are pivoting back to the product people wanted.
- toisanji 12y ago
  we feel the same way!
gobengo 12y ago
We've been a customer for going on two years. Working with Anand and Brett was consistently a pleasure. I wish you all the best of luck!
bby 12y ago
Whatever happened to Thomas? Haven't been keeping up with filepicker in a long time.
alphapapa 12y ago
Am I missing something, or is Filepicker solving an artificial problem, namely connecting proprietary services and apps which could instead use standards like HTTP URLs and filesystems? Some industries are built upon being middlemen, but it seems like, as technology develops, the trend is away from middlemen. Why build a new business upon such a strategy? It doesn't seem like a long-term approach.
- czbond 12y ago
  You're missing something. Filepicker is a great way to integrate on projects where you won't get paid $5-10k alone just for getting S3 secure uploads working. [cost of time]
  - alphapapa 12y ago
    I'm not sure S3 is a good example, since it uses a public API that has multiple, open-source implementations on both client and server sides.
    - czbond 12y ago
      But it still takes a while to implement, test, refactor, integrate if you're doing it at scale, distributed, and securely. I can pay $15 and have that done with minor integration. I've used it for just this. Their ability to upload from Dropbox, file system, S3, etc are really nice.
      - alphapapa 12y ago
        Ok, but what happens when they go bankrupt, or get bought out and have the rates doubled or service halved or otherwise ruined? What happens when they have downtime, and your customers complain, and you have to give them the excuse, "Sorry, but Filepicker is down," and they say, "Huh? Pileflicker? What's that? Just fix it! I need to upload now!" Every external dependency or middleman you require hands over some control of your product or service to someone else. You put yourself in their hands and are at their mercy. And for what? Convenience? Laziness? When there are standard, proven, tested FOSS solutions that don't depend on middlemen, that you can debug and fix yourself? Web sites are becoming far too interdependent. It wasn't many years ago when web sites had ZERO external, third-party resources, except banner ads. Now every page loads 35 JavaScripts from OTHER DOMAINS, all of which run in the context of the site the user is actually intending to visit. And several of them usually are required, or else the site looks horrible or breaks completely. It's madness.

78 points by sethbannon 12y ago

kimba 12y ago

Odd. They tell us a new team was necessary, with a little detail but not enough to stop me wondering for more. Then, despite the title, they don't actually introduce the team. Just some tiny images and only their first names.

alaskamiller 12y ago

I've been using Filepicker from day 1. Never gave me trouble. Noticed they raised, tried for an ambitious strategy, since it wasn't part of my wheelhouse I quietly cheered them on. Yesterday while checking on something I logged in and noticed the Ink side disappeared and now they're introducing a new team. I love you guys but be honest, be merciless. What went wrong? Why drop Ink? Why the new team? It'll be better than this pablum PR puff.

fown9 12y ago

Looks like this YC company burned through 1.8M from Andressen Horowitz, and all of the original founders have left the company to work somewhere else. Sadly, no acqui-hire this time.

pron 12y ago
> Sadly, no acqui-hire this time. What are you talking about? This is much better than an acquihire. They've built a good product that people like; it just isn't VC material, as it turns out. So they've found a way to keep their good product going.

vampirical 12y ago

It would be great for one or more of the founders to do a postmortem write-up once any dust has settled. I had high hopes for Ink, seems like a shame. I'd imagine this comes at the end of a lot of work to get things transitioned so it is understandable that it is a bit light but it would definitely be good to hear more detail.

tommoor 12y ago

Well, this is the most ambiguous post i've read in a while. I think a little transparency here would have gone a long way to inspiring confidence in the new company/team

jc4p 12y ago

Eek. I used Filepicker at my last start-up and loved it. In fact, the website's still using it right now. I integrated it before it was called Ink, went through a rebrand, and now I'm left wondering if the old code I wrote is still going to work. I wish there was more context here and explained if the product was going away or not. On a personal note: I had talked with Brett and Anand repeatedly in the past, it would've been nice to get more details.

toisanji 12y ago
Glad you love the product, everything will work as before. I would extend that and say it will be more robust and faster then ever before.
- cschmidt 12y ago
  You should understand that your blog post makes us filepicker users nervous. Please tell us more about what it going on. This is normally the feeling I get when I have to start planning a transition. Give us some fact, or plans even.
  - toisanji 12y ago
    We are doubling down on the product. We want to make sure everything is extremely stable first. We have an awesome roadmap that we will be sharing on the blog soon that outlines our plans to make filepicker the best service for dealing with files.
    - cschmidt 12y ago
      It isn't the product that has me worried - it is already very useful. It is the team and financing that is. Will you make it to cash flow positive? Will you survive? Is there at least a reasonable plan to get there?
      - toisanji 12y ago
        cschmidt, Filepicker is growing fast,will survive, and has a very bright future ahead. We will be publishing our roadmap soon.

toisanji 12y ago

Thanks guys! Jason from Filepicker here. You’re right—Ink on mobile was too far ahead of its time. I’m still frustrated I don’t have a filesystem on my iDevices… that said, the core business of handling files for uploading no matter where they live couldn’t be more exciting for us. We’ve a huge roadmap and if you check out the blog you’ll see we’re starting to announce our updates already. Everything from new client libraries, iPhone iOS8 support, Metadata APIs to new transformations, data sources and much, much more coming. We’ll give a deeper update on the business once the dust settles but feel free to contact me directly if you have any questions about our service!

shravvmehtaa 12y ago
Hi Jason, What happened to the old team? Why did they quit? What happened to INK?

quickpost 12y ago

Off topic, but that sticky navigation at the top is ridiculously large / tall. It seemingly takes up 1/3 of the viewable browser area required for reading the actual "content". Crazy. (NOTE: Browser width must be at least 992px wide to see it).

pyre 12y ago
I only see navigation at the bottom, and it's less than 1/3 of the screen, though that may depend on your screen height as it has a fixed height.

fookyong 12y ago

The blog post won't load for me (dodgy airport wifi!), but I just want to say that Filepicker is one of the few SaaS services that I got instant value from and when they went from freemium to paid recently, I paid up right away. I really hope the service doesn't disappear!..

toisanji 12y ago
Jason from filepicker here, Its not going anywhere, we are expanding the service rapidly and have a full featured roadmap. I'm glad you can see the value!
- mkal_tsr 12y ago
  As someone paying for Filepicker/Ink, it's been great to me ... but ... I've got to ask, as a customer... If I see rebrand, then all founders removed, why should I have confidence that this company is going to be sustainable and not just live off VC funding?
  - toisanji 12y ago
    just pinged you.
- doctorpangloss 12y ago
  I'm not too worried about a rebrand. Very happy customer here :). Let me search something other than CC stuff. Just straight up enable Google images (or gasp, even Bing images).

prawn 12y ago

Where have the new team come from? Were they staff? Or did they buy it when the founders wanted to quit? What was Ink? Was that by the original founders or the new team? Maybe the new team could list their full names? Bit strange to have "meet the new team" but not have their names and where they've come from.

jitl 12y ago
Yeah, I feel like I've read only the epilogue to a long story. Would love a quick rundown of what lead to this anouncemnt.
michaelbuckbee 12y ago
"Ink" was a rebranding they did when they were attempting to move the service beyond just FileUploadingAsAService.
- prawn 12y ago
  So FilePicker was replaced by Ink and now FilePicker has returned?

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brettcvz 12y ago

As the original founder and CEO, I can provide a bit of clarity. As with many startups, ours was a thrilling but ultimately tumultuous journey. At the end of the day, we ended up with a nice profitable lifestyle business (filepicker.io) and a big ambitious change-the-world product that we were not able to get traction with (Ink). The team decided that the right thing to do was to sell to someone that would: 1. Value and support existing customers 2. Return as much money as possible to investors, and 3. Allow the team to move on to new opportunities. (In priority order) I have a tremendous amount of respect for the new team, and actually think they will do a better job with filepicker.io, because they are committed to its success as a company and a business rather than some distant vision. For those who were fans of what we were trying to do at Ink (helping connect the apps and services that people use), I'm still committed to the dream and seeing if we can do it in a slightly different way at IFTTT. At some point I may do a more full post-mortem, for now if you have any questions hit me up at <my username>@gmail.com

jonny_eh 12y ago
As a customer of filepicker.io I've always been impressed by the quality of the product, documentation, and support. So far this seems like a classy way to move on, best of luck at IFTTT!

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jaequery 12y ago

im really curious to know how much the founders made from the deal.

aytekin 12y ago

Filepicker is a much better name. I am glad they are pivoting back to the product people wanted.

toisanji 12y ago
we feel the same way!

gobengo 12y ago

We've been a customer for going on two years. Working with Anand and Brett was consistently a pleasure. I wish you all the best of luck!

bby 12y ago

Whatever happened to Thomas? Haven't been keeping up with filepicker in a long time.

alphapapa 12y ago

Am I missing something, or is Filepicker solving an artificial problem, namely connecting proprietary services and apps which could instead use standards like HTTP URLs and filesystems? Some industries are built upon being middlemen, but it seems like, as technology develops, the trend is away from middlemen. Why build a new business upon such a strategy? It doesn't seem like a long-term approach.

czbond 12y ago
You're missing something. Filepicker is a great way to integrate on projects where you won't get paid $5-10k alone just for getting S3 secure uploads working. [cost of time]
- alphapapa 12y ago
  I'm not sure S3 is a good example, since it uses a public API that has multiple, open-source implementations on both client and server sides.
  - czbond 12y ago
    But it still takes a while to implement, test, refactor, integrate if you're doing it at scale, distributed, and securely. I can pay $15 and have that done with minor integration. I've used it for just this. Their ability to upload from Dropbox, file system, S3, etc are really nice.
    - alphapapa 12y ago
      Ok, but what happens when they go bankrupt, or get bought out and have the rates doubled or service halved or otherwise ruined? What happens when they have downtime, and your customers complain, and you have to give them the excuse, "Sorry, but Filepicker is down," and they say, "Huh? Pileflicker? What's that? Just fix it! I need to upload now!" Every external dependency or middleman you require hands over some control of your product or service to someone else. You put yourself in their hands and are at their mercy. And for what? Convenience? Laziness? When there are standard, proven, tested FOSS solutions that don't depend on middlemen, that you can debug and fix yourself? Web sites are becoming far too interdependent. It wasn't many years ago when web sites had ZERO external, third-party resources, except banner ads. Now every page loads 35 JavaScripts from OTHER DOMAINS, all of which run in the context of the site the user is actually intending to visit. And several of them usually are required, or else the site looks horrible or breaks completely. It's madness.