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> Actually giving a shit about people, taking time to learn their unique differences, caring for them and doing right by them, that takes so much work. It's ab

> Actually giving a shit about people, taking time to learn their unique differences, caring for them and doing right by them, that takes so much work. It's about 50/50 in my anecdotal experience that half of them doesn't give a shit or is basically assholes. > It would be so much easier if there were just 3 steps to making anyone your friend. That's actually not true. It's actually a skill and some of these guys, including me, have spent years going out twice a week, 5 days a week, to acquire this skill. It might seem easy to read those stuff but I think it's hard work to actually practice it. > But that doesn't stop scam artists from exploiting your hope that it does. I haven't spend any money on it. Mostly lurking through forums. But, I know a few coaches and they do make money off of people. I personally don't believe they can really make a lasting impact with just a week of booth camp or two days. It may help if you have some basis or moderate understanding of communication or social skill. It's more of a skill that take years. If you do want to see some positive side of PUA I believe 21 convention videoes on youtube is good. It focus on all aspect.

JohnBooty 12y ago
> That's actually not true. It's actually a skill and > some of these guys, including me, have spent years > going out twice a week, 5 days a week, to acquire > this skill. What we're seeing in this thread (and everywhere, really) is that this skill is so intuitive to many people that they don't even recognize that it's a skill others have to work at. I'm kind of in the middle. I was an awkward kid but I worked hard at figuring out how to socialize over the years and now it actually comes pretty naturally to me. (Not that I'm a master charmer today or anything!) But I respect that this skill is something that a lot of people struggle at. And I think that getting people started on the right path might be simpler than other people think - some people benefit from having allegedly "intuitive" concepts spelled out to them, such as "a good conversationalist will ask questions about the other person."

JohnBooty 12y ago

> That's actually not true. It's actually a skill and > some of these guys, including me, have spent years > going out twice a week, 5 days a week, to acquire > this skill. What we're seeing in this thread (and everywhere, really) is that this skill is so intuitive to many people that they don't even recognize that it's a skill others have to work at. I'm kind of in the middle. I was an awkward kid but I worked hard at figuring out how to socialize over the years and now it actually comes pretty naturally to me. (Not that I'm a master charmer today or anything!) But I respect that this skill is something that a lot of people struggle at. And I think that getting people started on the right path might be simpler than other people think - some people benefit from having allegedly "intuitive" concepts spelled out to them, such as "a good conversationalist will ask questions about the other person."