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The only wrong, I think, in this case is that the tech at Rimuhosting did not respect Aaron's specific wish to not allow him to access his box. Do you think th

by astrec 17y ago

The only wrong, I think, in this case is that the tech at Rimuhosting did not respect Aaron's specific wish to not allow him to access his box. Do you think this is more or less wrong than simply halting the instance?

SwellJoe 17y ago
Do you think this is more or less wrong than simply halting the instance? If they had reason to believe his instance was impacting other users or their network, then halting the instance (preferably after contacting him about the problem, which seems to have happened) would not have been wrong at all. So, logging in after he'd asked them not to is definitely the "more wrong" of the two options. I tend to think it was an honest mistake made by a support tech who was having a bad/busy day rather than an attempt to violate any (real or imagined) privacy pact that the company had made with Aaron. As I've mentioned a few times here, the default expectation of hosting customers is that the host will login to find and fix problems. From the perspective of most hosting customers, that is part of the service they are paying for (and they pay more to get more of it, as in the case of RackSpace), and if it were missing they would be angry and leave. My guess is that the tech at Rimu simply didn't remember or notice that Aaron had requested no one ever login to his box. Basically, what I'm trying to say is that, as someone that is deeply familiar with this industry, when I read the shitstorm that has been kicked up here over this (extremely minor) incident, I'm just stunned and baffled. This is seriously a tempest in a teapot, if ever I saw one. Yes, your hosting provider should respect your privacy, to the best of their ability to do so while shepherding their shared resources responsibly to provide the best service to each of their customers. But, there is no accusation of theft of data; no reason to believe Rimuhosting acted inappropriately with the access they had; no reason to think it was done maliciously or completely without warning (Aaron admits he'd talked with them in the past about the issue); and no reason to think Rimuhosting was trying to piss anyone off. Not being thoroughly informed about a customer's wishes is pretty much all one can accuse them of here.

by astrec 17y ago

SwellJoe 17y ago

Do you think this is more or less wrong than simply halting the instance? If they had reason to believe his instance was impacting other users or their network, then halting the instance (preferably after contacting him about the problem, which seems to have happened) would not have been wrong at all. So, logging in after he'd asked them not to is definitely the "more wrong" of the two options. I tend to think it was an honest mistake made by a support tech who was having a bad/busy day rather than an attempt to violate any (real or imagined) privacy pact that the company had made with Aaron. As I've mentioned a few times here, the default expectation of hosting customers is that the host will login to find and fix problems. From the perspective of most hosting customers, that is part of the service they are paying for (and they pay more to get more of it, as in the case of RackSpace), and if it were missing they would be angry and leave. My guess is that the tech at Rimu simply didn't remember or notice that Aaron had requested no one ever login to his box. Basically, what I'm trying to say is that, as someone that is deeply familiar with this industry, when I read the shitstorm that has been kicked up here over this (extremely minor) incident, I'm just stunned and baffled. This is seriously a tempest in a teapot, if ever I saw one. Yes, your hosting provider should respect your privacy, to the best of their ability to do so while shepherding their shared resources responsibly to provide the best service to each of their customers. But, there is no accusation of theft of data; no reason to believe Rimuhosting acted inappropriately with the access they had; no reason to think it was done maliciously or completely without warning (Aaron admits he'd talked with them in the past about the issue); and no reason to think Rimuhosting was trying to piss anyone off. Not being thoroughly informed about a customer's wishes is pretty much all one can accuse them of here.