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We all talk about using SSL everywhere protects people from NSA/GCHQ/... It may prevent script kiddies to use Firesheep but as far as I understand if the NSA/GC
by janthinidae 12y ago
We all talk about using SSL everywhere protects people from NSA/GCHQ/... It may prevent script kiddies to use Firesheep but as far as I understand if the NSA/GCHQ has access to any key from any Root CA (which I highly assume) then it doesn't matter at all to the NSA/GCHQ what kind of encryption we use as they can do easily MITM attacks (anyone checking SHA1 from the certificates from a reliable source, whatever this means?). The same is true that at several companies I worked for, people had to install (or per automatic software update) a fake certificate to allow the proxy to spy on all traffic. In one case I tried to fight against it, but I was the only developer of the 80 developer which cared. Their reasoning was totally flawed (which I demonstrated, e.g. that it protects against viruses, which it didn't, as the proxy only checked the first few MiB) but despite that, it was signed by management etc. Maybe I made I mistake in my reasoning and I hope someone explains my why, but in my opinion SSL (despite the script kiddie example) is broken as long as we have to trust companies which we shouldn't trust at all.
- 7952 12y agoCorporate IT departments tend to rely far too much on network level security like this. But if the users machine is compromised in some way network security is completely useless. Even if TLS was completely perfect there would still be vulnerabilities in software that could be attacked on-mass.
- frameworkHeavy 12y agoQuick tip: En masse, pronounced with an "awww". It's French.
- gizmo686 12y agoI think we are pretty safe against MITM attacks (for dragnat survallance). As a quick test, I am sure that many people on this site have access to very public facing, SSL enabled, servers. Try verifing that the public key your server sends is the same one that you get visiting your site. Even without concerns over government survallence, it is probably a good idea to check this occasionally.