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Just a guess... you were born before 1982, right? I think most of this really is just an age gap. I don't think that PewDiePie is the height of Let's Play quali

by quink 12y ago

Just a guess... you were born before 1982, right? I think most of this really is just an age gap. I don't think that PewDiePie is the height of Let's Play quality (and definitely not any of those you listed) - that honour might as well go to Scott Manley playing Kerbal Space Program - but he's not as terrible by a long, long stretch as some in here make him out to be. > "content quality black hole", "I intensely dislike it", "WTF are kids watching these days" You know, there's a reason he's popular. And sure, 80% of his output aren't going to match your quality filter. But the remaining 20% will. And, if nothing else, he's a cultural influence. Here's an idea: Turn off your brain and just watch some highly rated or very popular ones in the background. Can't be worse than the vast majority of TV you (and I) watched in the 90s, all things considered. Edit: And, if nothing else, two decades from now whoever is going to be working with you as a statistical inevitability by then when you're older will have grown up on PewDiePie (or one would hope, something a bit more educational) in the same way that you did on The Simpsons?

JoshTriplett 12y ago
> Just a guess... you were born before 1982, right? Nope; I'm in my 20s, not 30s. > And sure, 80% of his output aren't going to match your quality filter. But the remaining 20% will. Quantity has a quality all its own, but no, even 20% seems unlikely. > And, if nothing else, he's a cultural influence. Which brings me back to "What makes me really sad". > Turn off your brain No. I'm not a fan of "mindless" entertainment when there's so much that I don't have to turn off my brain to enjoy.
- ASneakyFox 12y ago
  These are video games are. There are no intellectual video games. Games are cheap entertainment targeted mostly to teen boys. Kind of like all those reality dating tv shows targeted to teen girls.
  - quink 12y ago
    Please have a quick look through, I don't know, the last 100 videos and find me your typical Field of Gears of Duty War Call Battle. Even when he ventures into something in FPS land, the most recent outing was Shrubbery Simulator. And it was a funny game concept to see - it was entertaining. And sure, The Simpsons was from the beginning targeted towards a young male audience as a cheap form of entertainment too, but how does define the potential of the work? No intellectual video games? Please, spare us that train of thought.
- quink 12y ago
  > No. I'm not a fan of "mindless" entertainment when there's so much that I don't have to turn off my brain to enjoy. I don't mean it in the sense of being mindless entertainment, it's more off the get rid of your preconceived ideas of what constitutes entertainment and at some point you may well hit on a hook of some sort. Even if it's not with PewDiePie. At some point the chasm between what's popular and what you have trained yourself to enjoy becomes so large that you'll be in a bubble and miss out on a shared global cultural experience. I think spending 2 or 4 hours a week just to keep up with pop culture from around the world is pretty damn important, and PewDiePie is a part of that. As is at least knowing about 非诚勿扰, stupid as it is. As is following the world cup in Brazil.
BESebastian 12y ago
Speaking as someone who is in their 30s, I couldn't care less about the silly voices, the endless repetitive churning out of videos about the same indie games (God knows I'm still watching Bisnap do endless playthroughs of Risk of Rain and Binding of Isaac) or the clearly very young fanbase. Those things don't really bother me. Now making jokes about rape and the holocaust? PewDiePie can go fuck himself.
- quink 12y ago
  > Now making jokes about rape and the holocaust? PewDiePie can go fuck himself. OK, I can't find anything on Google on the latter, and only something on the former from three years ago. If you're saying that with 1 billion views in the past three months alone and across dozens of hours of content in that time there's a possibility that someone might interpret him something he said as making jokes about the holocaust, then yes, I believe /that/. But I'm not sure his intentions are evil or that he is a bigot or a hateful person.

by quink 12y ago

JoshTriplett 12y ago

> Just a guess... you were born before 1982, right? Nope; I'm in my 20s, not 30s. > And sure, 80% of his output aren't going to match your quality filter. But the remaining 20% will. Quantity has a quality all its own, but no, even 20% seems unlikely. > And, if nothing else, he's a cultural influence. Which brings me back to "What makes me really sad". > Turn off your brain No. I'm not a fan of "mindless" entertainment when there's so much that I don't have to turn off my brain to enjoy.

ASneakyFox 12y ago
These are video games are. There are no intellectual video games. Games are cheap entertainment targeted mostly to teen boys. Kind of like all those reality dating tv shows targeted to teen girls.
- quink 12y ago
  Please have a quick look through, I don't know, the last 100 videos and find me your typical Field of Gears of Duty War Call Battle. Even when he ventures into something in FPS land, the most recent outing was Shrubbery Simulator. And it was a funny game concept to see - it was entertaining. And sure, The Simpsons was from the beginning targeted towards a young male audience as a cheap form of entertainment too, but how does define the potential of the work? No intellectual video games? Please, spare us that train of thought.
quink 12y ago
> No. I'm not a fan of "mindless" entertainment when there's so much that I don't have to turn off my brain to enjoy. I don't mean it in the sense of being mindless entertainment, it's more off the get rid of your preconceived ideas of what constitutes entertainment and at some point you may well hit on a hook of some sort. Even if it's not with PewDiePie. At some point the chasm between what's popular and what you have trained yourself to enjoy becomes so large that you'll be in a bubble and miss out on a shared global cultural experience. I think spending 2 or 4 hours a week just to keep up with pop culture from around the world is pretty damn important, and PewDiePie is a part of that. As is at least knowing about 非诚勿扰, stupid as it is. As is following the world cup in Brazil.

BESebastian 12y ago

Speaking as someone who is in their 30s, I couldn't care less about the silly voices, the endless repetitive churning out of videos about the same indie games (God knows I'm still watching Bisnap do endless playthroughs of Risk of Rain and Binding of Isaac) or the clearly very young fanbase. Those things don't really bother me. Now making jokes about rape and the holocaust? PewDiePie can go fuck himself.

quink 12y ago
> Now making jokes about rape and the holocaust? PewDiePie can go fuck himself. OK, I can't find anything on Google on the latter, and only something on the former from three years ago. If you're saying that with 1 billion views in the past three months alone and across dozens of hours of content in that time there's a possibility that someone might interpret him something he said as making jokes about the holocaust, then yes, I believe /that/. But I'm not sure his intentions are evil or that he is a bigot or a hateful person.