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You guys already know that high school doesn't matter, right? College doesn't matter, either. You will discover this eventually. Sure, it might seem importan

by downer 19y ago

You guys already know that high school doesn't matter, right? College doesn't matter, either. You will discover this eventually. Sure, it might seem important if trying to impress an employer right out of school, but that's still like waiting to be rewarded by Daddy -- much like the Christian religion, in which Celestial Dad is going to punish or reward you after you're dead -- there is no self-determination, only supplication. Everything depends on pleasing, or obeying, some other more powerful entity. Take off the shackles and decide for yourself. Grades make zero difference for start-ups -- it's like Captain Jack Sparrow said, "The only rules that really matter are these: what a man can do, and what a man can't do."

pg 19y ago
College matters more than high school because (for most people) the intellectual standards are so much higher.
steveplace 19y ago
...I'd rather not take advice from a pirate. Or Disney.
- downer 19y ago
  Disney's full of bad messages, like Believe In Yourself, Express Yourself, Be True To Your Friends, Follow Your Dreams, isn't it. "Absorb what is useful" regardless of the source.
mgummelt 19y ago
This will probably get down modded for potentially inciting a flame-war, but I feel some duty to stomp out ignorance. Saying there is no self-determination in Christianity is as inaccurate as saying there is no self-determination in education. Both institutions have consequences for your actions instilled by higher authority, but that in no way implies that every action is a result of that incentive. Are you saying the only incentive for students to spend hundreds of hours in the research lab is just to get a letter of recommendation from the professor and land a job? As a student, I find that ridiculous. Are you saying the only incentive for Catholics to pray the rosary is to rack up points in the afterlife? As a Catholic, I find that objectionable. However, I'm not even sure the context of your statement that High School and College don't "matter". Matter for what? Landing a job? I doubt you meant this, but that's certainly not true. For an education? You could possibly make an argument for this, however I would still disagree simply because of the amount of resources available in a school. Do they serve no purpose at all? High School and College are fun, so that can't be true. It seems the only case where school potentially doesn't "matter" is in the context of start-ups. But what happens when all your startups have failed and you're 40?
- rms 19y ago
  >Are you saying the only incentive for students to spend hundreds of hours in the research lab is just to get a letter of recommendation from the professor and land a job? As a student, I find that ridiculous. Are you saying the only incentive for Catholics to pray the rosary is to rack up points in the afterlife? As a Catholic, I find that objectionable. In this context, the reason to pray the rosary or spend a lot of time learning in college is for self-fulfillment. If you find it fulfilling, great. If not, your time is probably better spent doing something else, if the afterlife points or letter of recommendation don't matter to you.
- downer 19y ago
  > As a Catholic, I find that objectionable. Object to all the straw men you care to erect. > But what happens when all your startups have failed and you're 40? What happens when you're 40 and all the companies you've worked for have gone under and you can't get hired because of age discrimination? We can play the "What-If" game all day long. College doesn't matter in the sense that I know people who went early, got A's, and then it's like, "now what?" The people who care tend to be those who are interested in pigeonholing you. And eventually nobody cares whether you went, let alone what your GPA was. The great majority of your post-college life is like this. Learning what you need is useful; college tends to have some overlap with this but they aren't equivalent. Looking back, I'd say the best time to do a start-up is when you have the most energy and enthusiasm, which tends to be somewhere in the teens to around 21ish. High school and college dampen enthusiasm and people are given to rallying their jaded spirits through frivolous amusements, as RWE put it. Jumping through other people's hoops is a major diversion of time and energy.

by downer 19y ago

pg 19y ago

College matters more than high school because (for most people) the intellectual standards are so much higher.

steveplace 19y ago

...I'd rather not take advice from a pirate. Or Disney.

downer 19y ago
Disney's full of bad messages, like Believe In Yourself, Express Yourself, Be True To Your Friends, Follow Your Dreams, isn't it. "Absorb what is useful" regardless of the source.

mgummelt 19y ago

This will probably get down modded for potentially inciting a flame-war, but I feel some duty to stomp out ignorance. Saying there is no self-determination in Christianity is as inaccurate as saying there is no self-determination in education. Both institutions have consequences for your actions instilled by higher authority, but that in no way implies that every action is a result of that incentive. Are you saying the only incentive for students to spend hundreds of hours in the research lab is just to get a letter of recommendation from the professor and land a job? As a student, I find that ridiculous. Are you saying the only incentive for Catholics to pray the rosary is to rack up points in the afterlife? As a Catholic, I find that objectionable. However, I'm not even sure the context of your statement that High School and College don't "matter". Matter for what? Landing a job? I doubt you meant this, but that's certainly not true. For an education? You could possibly make an argument for this, however I would still disagree simply because of the amount of resources available in a school. Do they serve no purpose at all? High School and College are fun, so that can't be true. It seems the only case where school potentially doesn't "matter" is in the context of start-ups. But what happens when all your startups have failed and you're 40?

rms 19y ago
>Are you saying the only incentive for students to spend hundreds of hours in the research lab is just to get a letter of recommendation from the professor and land a job? As a student, I find that ridiculous. Are you saying the only incentive for Catholics to pray the rosary is to rack up points in the afterlife? As a Catholic, I find that objectionable. In this context, the reason to pray the rosary or spend a lot of time learning in college is for self-fulfillment. If you find it fulfilling, great. If not, your time is probably better spent doing something else, if the afterlife points or letter of recommendation don't matter to you.
downer 19y ago
> As a Catholic, I find that objectionable. Object to all the straw men you care to erect. > But what happens when all your startups have failed and you're 40? What happens when you're 40 and all the companies you've worked for have gone under and you can't get hired because of age discrimination? We can play the "What-If" game all day long. College doesn't matter in the sense that I know people who went early, got A's, and then it's like, "now what?" The people who care tend to be those who are interested in pigeonholing you. And eventually nobody cares whether you went, let alone what your GPA was. The great majority of your post-college life is like this. Learning what you need is useful; college tends to have some overlap with this but they aren't equivalent. Looking back, I'd say the best time to do a start-up is when you have the most energy and enthusiasm, which tends to be somewhere in the teens to around 21ish. High school and college dampen enthusiasm and people are given to rallying their jaded spirits through frivolous amusements, as RWE put it. Jumping through other people's hoops is a major diversion of time and energy.