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You make it sound more difficult than it is. In other words, they mounted your partition, cat mykey.txt > authorized_keys, then ssh'd in and shut down your misb

by sho 17y ago

You make it sound more difficult than it is. In other words, they mounted your partition, cat mykey.txt > authorized_keys, then ssh'd in and shut down your misbehaving app. They probably have a script for it since I bet it happens all the time. You're dangerously close to whining, did you know.

_pius 17y ago
You make it sound more difficult than it is. Hmm. I'm sorry, but I don't see how this matters at all Sho. Do the ethics change based on whether you have a rootkit or you do everything by hand?
- sho 17y ago
  Ethics? Ethics don't enter into it, this is pure business necessity. Fact is, a $20/month VPS account has no rights and if it causes trouble it will be shut down, simple as that. Pay $250/month for an account at Rackspace (or whoever) and you will be treated very differently.
  - SwellJoe 17y ago
    Pay $250/month for an account at Rackspace (or whoever) and you will be treated very differently. Actually, the reason you pay $250 (more, probably) at Rackspace, is because they will login to your box on a regular basis to "manage" things. Rackspace is focused on "managed hosting"; they help you administer your system, which is why people pay a big premium for it. Most hosting customers have no idea what they're doing, and they need a lot of hand-holding, and a "grownup" to make sure things stay sane on their systems.
    - sho 17y ago
      True. A rackspace account is more like $450 for a single server. They keep their prices secret for a reason.
pyre 17y ago
How hard it was for them to do something isn't the issue. From the blog post: > In December they set a CPU cap on my VPS. Then from their response email to shutting down Apache: > We can set it so that you get a fixed amount of CPU (and then we don’t mind how much CPU want to use). My first reaction is, "Huh?" They state that they don't care about your local CPU usage if they bother to put a cap on your usage of the actual CPU. Yet they didn't do that. Instead they broke into his box to shutdown a rogue process that was 'using too much cpu.' That doesn't make any sense.
apotheon 17y ago
It would be easy as hell for me to shoot the hinges off a neighbor's door with a shotgun, wander inside, and turn off all the lights. That doesn't make it right.
jjs 17y ago
> cat mykey.txt > authorized_keys I'd be legitimately upset if they did that instead of cat mykey.txt >> authorized_keys
- sho 17y ago
  Oops. Right you are. It was a typo! Then again, he never said he was using SSH keys, so maybe ...

by sho 17y ago

_pius 17y ago

You make it sound more difficult than it is. Hmm. I'm sorry, but I don't see how this matters at all Sho. Do the ethics change based on whether you have a rootkit or you do everything by hand?

sho 17y ago
Ethics? Ethics don't enter into it, this is pure business necessity. Fact is, a $20/month VPS account has no rights and if it causes trouble it will be shut down, simple as that. Pay $250/month for an account at Rackspace (or whoever) and you will be treated very differently.
- SwellJoe 17y ago
  Pay $250/month for an account at Rackspace (or whoever) and you will be treated very differently. Actually, the reason you pay $250 (more, probably) at Rackspace, is because they will login to your box on a regular basis to "manage" things. Rackspace is focused on "managed hosting"; they help you administer your system, which is why people pay a big premium for it. Most hosting customers have no idea what they're doing, and they need a lot of hand-holding, and a "grownup" to make sure things stay sane on their systems.
  - sho 17y ago
    True. A rackspace account is more like $450 for a single server. They keep their prices secret for a reason.

pyre 17y ago

How hard it was for them to do something isn't the issue. From the blog post: > In December they set a CPU cap on my VPS. Then from their response email to shutting down Apache: > We can set it so that you get a fixed amount of CPU (and then we don’t mind how much CPU want to use). My first reaction is, "Huh?" They state that they don't care about your local CPU usage if they bother to put a cap on your usage of the actual CPU. Yet they didn't do that. Instead they broke into his box to shutdown a rogue process that was 'using too much cpu.' That doesn't make any sense.

apotheon 17y ago

It would be easy as hell for me to shoot the hinges off a neighbor's door with a shotgun, wander inside, and turn off all the lights. That doesn't make it right.

jjs 17y ago

> cat mykey.txt > authorized_keys I'd be legitimately upset if they did that instead of cat mykey.txt >> authorized_keys

sho 17y ago
Oops. Right you are. It was a typo! Then again, he never said he was using SSH keys, so maybe ...