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I'm in no way defending anyone who takes advantage of anyone who's age they are unsure of (or really anyone who is vulnerable), but I notice that nowhere do the

by gress 12y ago

I'm in no way defending anyone who takes advantage of anyone who's age they are unsure of (or really anyone who is vulnerable), but I notice that nowhere do they talk about the age of the person they are modeling. I'd be curious to know what age a randomized blinded panel would rate their avatar at. If this was a psychological test, that would be a requirement for it to be considered valid.

fixermark 12y ago
"My name is Sweetie. I am 10 years old. I live in the Phillipines." ~ from the video
- gress 12y ago
  Thanks. That answers part of it, but it doesn't answer the question of what age people would rate the Avatar at. The two should be consistent.
  - fixermark 12y ago
    Yes and no. I haven't seen the whole video, so I'd really have to know what their procedure was for engaging (suspects/victims/potential predators, depending on one's [apparently wide-ranging in this thread ;) ] view). "She said she was 10 but she looked 18" isn't really a tenable defense, as far as I'm aware. In every US jurisdiction I'm familiar with, at least, if the honeypot declares "I'm 10 years old," that's it. Game over if the predator continues to engage sexually; the honeypot's face-value declaration of age is enough to get the predator on the hook for intent. FYI, while Sweetie is a next step in that it has an audio-visual component, the standard operating procedure in text-only fora for years has been adult male F.B.I. agents roleplaying as a young male or female child to nab predators. The declaration of age is part of that standard operating procedure to make it easy to prove intent ("the chatter even said he was 10 and the perpetrator still went on with it!").
    - gress 12y ago
      I'm not saying it's a defense - it's clearly not. There just seems to be something creepy about using a representation that looks older and calling it a younger age.
gress 12y ago
Why is this downvoted to zero? Doesn't anyone else find the whole thing creepy?

by gress 12y ago

fixermark 12y ago

"My name is Sweetie. I am 10 years old. I live in the Phillipines." ~ from the video

gress 12y ago
Thanks. That answers part of it, but it doesn't answer the question of what age people would rate the Avatar at. The two should be consistent.
- fixermark 12y ago
  Yes and no. I haven't seen the whole video, so I'd really have to know what their procedure was for engaging (suspects/victims/potential predators, depending on one's [apparently wide-ranging in this thread ;) ] view). "She said she was 10 but she looked 18" isn't really a tenable defense, as far as I'm aware. In every US jurisdiction I'm familiar with, at least, if the honeypot declares "I'm 10 years old," that's it. Game over if the predator continues to engage sexually; the honeypot's face-value declaration of age is enough to get the predator on the hook for intent. FYI, while Sweetie is a next step in that it has an audio-visual component, the standard operating procedure in text-only fora for years has been adult male F.B.I. agents roleplaying as a young male or female child to nab predators. The declaration of age is part of that standard operating procedure to make it easy to prove intent ("the chatter even said he was 10 and the perpetrator still went on with it!").
  - gress 12y ago
    I'm not saying it's a defense - it's clearly not. There just seems to be something creepy about using a representation that looks older and calling it a younger age.

gress 12y ago

Why is this downvoted to zero? Doesn't anyone else find the whole thing creepy?