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This seems like a good place to ask: Why do people "become a fan" of a brand on fb? What value do people get from publicly declaring they like gatorade? I cont
by malloreon 12y ago
This seems like a good place to ask:
Why do people "become a fan" of a brand on fb? What value do people get from publicly declaring they like gatorade? I contrast this with the implicit declaration that occurs when I carry a gatorade bottle around, because in that situation presumably I'm enjoying drinking it.
I cannot see how doing so would benefit a) me or b) my friends who might see that I like gatorade.
It just seems like I'm a) giving fb more information about me and b) inviting gatorade to try and sell me things.
Am I wrong or is becoming a fan of a brand just all bad for the user and all good for fb/the brand?
- the_watcher 12y ago>> It just seems like I'm a) giving fb more information about me and b) inviting gatorade to try and sell me things. Am I wrong or is becoming a fan of a brand just all bad for the user and all good for fb/the brand? This assumes that giving Facebook information to deliver ads for things you actually want is a bad thing, a position I disagree with. No matter how hard I try, I will be advertised to. I'd prefer to get ads for things I might actually want than a return to the lowest common denominator ads of the past (which tend to be things like diploma mills, insurance, or payday loans).
- JonnieCache 12y agoSome people just like the free dopamine hit from clicking on stuff.
- Spooky23 12y agoPeople don't see becoming a "fan" as a declaration of love for Gatorade. They see it as a way to win tickets or something similar.
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- wldcordeiro 12y agoDepending on the brand some people like to see updates from them. Of course this isn't true for all brands and like batiudrami said people get tired of how often many brands post updates.
- dohertyjf 12y agoUltimately AS a marketer, I'd agree that the point is to sell you something when you like my brand. It's inherently self-serving, but that doesn't mean that a brand can't bring you joy and satisfaction through their interactions with you online. IE I like GoPro on Facebook. Ultimately they want me to buy a $400 camera and all the accessories, but they also inspire me with images and photos to get me outdoors enjoying things I also love. So...complicated thoughts are complicated.
- hueving 12y agoI'm not sure about gatorade, but with some brands it can be a show of support in the company's mission/values/etc. It could also be a smaller company that you just want to make the existence of known to your social network because you think their product will better everyone's lives.
- newaccountfool 12y agoIs it not so you can get updates on new product ranges and coupon codes, if I ever like a Facebook page its so I can get coupon codes. Nothing else.
- SixSigma 12y agoBut using the Gatorade example, if I already like gattorade, presumably I buy it already so I don't need incentives. It is almost like finding out who doesn't like Gatorade so tthey can be targettted.
- nnnnni 12y agoThe idea is that they'd RETAIN you as a customer through giveaways and/or coupons. Also, there's the possibility of word-of-mouth advertisement from happy customers (eg "I won a free case of Gatorade! I love that company!")
- digitalengineer 12y agoIt's way easier to sell stuff to people who already like it. You just need to convince them to buy more often and larger volume. (2L coke bottles, 2+1 deals). You can do this by creating occasions for people to consume your product and combining products.
- bobbles 12y agoI assume an EXTREMELY high number of these 'likes' are due to these companies offering freebies/prizes that you have a 'like' and comment on their page in order to participate.
- coralreef 12y ago"Likes" are like currency that is virtually free of cost, and I think the younger crowd has no problem giving away likes. They don't have the stigma / fear of spam, data mining, etc. that the HN crowd does.
- threeseed 12y agoPlease even the HN/Technology crowds don't have a fear of spam, data mining etc. Gmail, Google Search, Twitter, Facebook etc are all widely used.
- general_failure 12y agoFor everyone, it comes down to convenience
- jon-wood 12y agoIts a pity that one of Facebook's main revenue source is promoting brand's posts, because otherwise it would seem like the best decision they could make is to outright ban any posts along the lines of "Like and share and comment on this to win a prize", both to reduce the noise on people's timelines, and to improve the quality of the like data they're collecting on users. There's a similar effect on Twitter with brands asking for retweets, but I see less of those, presumably because the kind of people I follow on Twitter are less likely to get sucked into that.
- maaarghk 12y agoThey can do better - they just don't show you them, unless the page pays to promote it.
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- lotharbot 12y agoI can think of several reasons: 1) discounts / promotions / contests and other forms of bribery 2) upcoming products you want to hear about as soon as they're ready 3) products you genuinely love and want your friends to know about 4) companies you support for ideological reasons (they support some charity/cause you like) 5) social signaling / status (mark yourself as an Apple customer, or a Coach bag owner, or whatever.) 6) the brand puts out genuinely entertaining advertising (some people really like the Old Spice "smell like a man" commercials)
- lechevalierd3on 12y agoCertain brand are worth following for the content they publish. Gopro's pictures/videos of the day are almost all stunning and one might want to follow them the same way you would subscribe to the RSS feed of The Atlantic's In Focus or Boston.com's The Big picture. I personally follow a few kiteboarding brands that publish great pictures that I enjoy having in my feed.
- balls187 12y agoI fb-like brands, specifically to show my friends which brands I like, similar to how I liked specific movies, books, and music. A few brands that I have very high affinity towards: Crumpler, Nike, and Canon.
- welly 12y agoYour friends don't care what brands you like! I promise you.
- drdeca 12y agoI think it is possible for someone to desire their friends to know a thing about them even while knowing that their friends don't actually care about that detail. Maybe a subtle unconscious change about how one is thought of might possibly be a result? (I don't know, but I don't think I can rule it out as a possibility that could be desirable to some.)
- balls187 12y agoOh, you know my friends? Awesome. Hey we're going to grab coffee next friday, you should come along!
- esolyt 12y agoWell, people don't see the world as you do. They don't/can't see they are giving more information to Facebook by liking a brand. They do it because it's a way to socialize. Also when you like a page, you will be following it. That is, you will see news from that brand's page on your news feed.
- tptacek 12y agoPeople who wouldn't declare themselves "fans" of Gatorade might still be OK declaring themselves "fans" of The Glenrothes Distillery, or of The Butcher and Larder in Chicago, or of Merge Records. Doritos doesn't have much social signaling value, but the St. Louis Cardinals do. Also: 99.9% of people who use Facebook don't think at all about how much information they're giving Facebook. They don't care. So Facebook knows I like Bob's Burgers but not The Family Guy. And?
- gedrap 12y ago>>> So Facebook knows I like Bob's Burgers but not The Family Guy. And? This. While in general privacy is definitely a concern, I see "don't give your information" way too often and it's becoming sort of a cliche. How might the fact that I like some certain artists affect me in the future? No one is going to blackmail me for the fact that I liked Wu Tang Clan. I won't get denied some visa or whatever because I liked Donnie Darko movie. Privacy is important but let's stop from making it a cliche or some 'easy win'.
- tptacek 12y agoPerhaps a good rule of thumb: if, fashion sense aside, you'd wear the t-shirt, it's probably not a privacy threat.
- pnathan 12y agoThis is probably something worth saying louder. If you commonly display $information in all sorts of settings, then $information is not ipso facto private and leaking that information further is not a privacy threat. (Of course, it can be used as an input to deanonymize you in some data-mining system, so there's that...).
- Fuzzwah 12y agoYou can easily stop wearing a shirt when you change your mind about the topic. Once it has been on the internet, it is forever. Not saying you're wrong, but I don't think it is exactly the same. Maybe tattoos?
- nhangen 12y agoI'm a homebrewer and lover of craft beer. I follow a lot of local breweries and beer brands that I like? Why? Because I want to hear more from them. They are a part of my life, just like my friends, so they should be included in my feed. I also follow Fox Soccer and ESPN FC because it's easier to have content pushed specific to my interests rather than go to espn.com and click on the soccer tab. I follow businesses as my business because I want to build a profile. I also follow competitors and peers because I want to stay in the loop. It's just a large RSS feed really.
- c4mden 12y agoExcept, with an RSS feed, you can be assured that you are receiving ALL of the content that is being published by the site you are following. With Facebook, you are at the mercy of a black-box algorithm that decides which posts you want to see. Those local breweries are going to have to pay FB in order for all of their followers to view any specific post.
- potatolicious 12y agoBut I don't want to receive ALL the content. Unfortunately social media "consultants" and "experts" have decided to conflate spamminess with user engagement, and many businesses I legitimately want to hear from have taken to broadcasting every minutiae of what they do. The black-boxiness of the algorithm is non-ideal, but some algorithm is required.
- nhangen 12y agoWhat FB has done is force people to game the system in order to appear in the feed, which results in more content than people are able to consume, which results in the fact that we don't want to see it all because some of it is junk. This is a problem that Facebook has created, and one they will wrestle with until they either fix it and save their business, or are displaced by an upstart.
- snowwrestler 12y agoYou can tell Facebook to deliver all the content from a particular brand or person. There is a setting.
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- Haul4ss 12y agoI don't "like" any major brands or companies on Facebook, but I do several local companies. The froyo place we like publishes their daily flavor offerings on Facebook. The local butcher gives coupons on their Facebook page. Stuff like that. Facebook is constantly recommending to me things I should like. I ignore them all. I drink a Diet Coke from time to time, but I don't need the latest Diet Coke news.