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This system is integrated with domestic heating requirements. If you run the system enough to heat the house and provide hot water, then any electricity it make
by jws 12y ago
This system is integrated with domestic heating requirements. If you run the system enough to heat the house and provide hot water, then any electricity it makes is effectively at 100% efficiency. This can easily make a lot of sense in cold places.
Commercial natural gas electrical generation facilities are about 35% efficient. It is probably inappropriate to consider transmission losses since natural gas power plants tend to be located in areas of high consumption, but that 35% only goes down on the way to the end user. Remember, it doesn't have to beat the utilities for it to make sense.
Consider a house with a $200/month natural gas bill for heating. At $1/therm that is 200 therms of gas. Let's just guess at around 10% efficient for these cells, 220 therms of gas would give us our 200 therms of heat plus 20 therms of electricity which we convert to kilowatt hours, about 600 kilowatt hours. At $0.12 per kwHr that gets us about $72 of electricity for $20 in gas. Let's just say for every $3 we currently spend on gas we can get $1 of 100% efficiently generated electricity (1/3 the carbon footprint).
At 37°N, in December it would cover half of my electricity for a free standing house (but remember I made up their efficiency. At 20% it would cover all of my electricity. Googling about shows a record high around 60% and some press releases around 50%. I have no idea what these are, but it is probably several times the 10% number I used.)
During summer when I'm using nearly twice the electricity my gas bill is so close to zero as to not matter.
- paulyg 12y agoGas turbines are around 35% efficient in simple cycle but combined cycle plants are pushing 60% efficiency.
- jws 12y agoThe EPA report shows combined cycle plants at about 52% efficiency in 2012. With respect to the above numbers, it means only 1/2 the carbon footprint, not 1/3. It doesn't play in the cost numbers since I worked from the sale price of the electricity rather than its input costs.