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I came across something contrary to that. "Data from large, epidemiologic studies support the existence of an association between artificially-sweetened bevera

by fiblye 12y ago

I came across something contrary to that. "Data from large, epidemiologic studies support the existence of an association between artificially-sweetened beverage consumption and weight gain in children." http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2951976/ http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2951976/ One thing to keep in mind is that studies of diet and nutrition are always very hazy and go back and forth constantly. Human lifespans are long and diets are complex, so it's difficult to say whether or not any one thing is "harmless." Saturated fats were thought to be a major cause of heart disease for a long time, but now that's apparently no longer true. http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10001424052702303678404579533760760481486 http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB1000142405270230367840... I don't think comparing anti-diet soda drinkers and antivaxers is really a fair comparison. Soda and artificial sweeteners aren't in any way beneficial for anybody; vaccines save countless lives.

1stop 12y ago
Well, if artificial sweeteners caused a reduced (or zero) insulin response (which science says they do), and thus lowered the risk of obesity, then a (tenuous, though real) causal link can be made between saving lives, and artificial sweeteners, no?
- josai 12y ago
  The parent linked to a study demonstrating a link between aspartame and obesity. Did you even look at it before you wrote your facetious little reply? If you do, you'll notice it says the opposite of what you seem to think it does. And stop invoking the word "science" like it's an infallible deity whispering in your (and only your) ear. Science is a process and IMO the result is not in on this one yet.
  - 1stop 12y ago
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aspartame_controversy https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aspartame_controversy Okay, I get it, you are upset that I implied you were an anti-vaccer. I'm sorry for being facetious too: No smiling, serious business here. > Science is a process and IMO the result is not in on this one yet. On aspartame it's well and truly in. That's my point. If I haven't provided enough references, just google[0] it and read ALL the science. It's been studied to death and back again. I hate to say it, but now you're the one being a dick. :( [0] scholar.google.com
- cornholio 12y ago
  It's not a link (causation), it's an association (correlation). Which should be more than obvious, fat people drink diet coke precisely because they are fat, it makes no sense to prefer that wretched taste if you are not weight-conscious.
  - saalweachter 12y ago
    There is a lot of variation in how people taste artificial sweeteners. In my informal surveys, some people think Diet Coke tastes sweeter than regular Coke, and some people think regular Coke tastes sweeter. In general, people seem to prefer the one that tastes less sweet.

by fiblye 12y ago

1stop 12y ago

Well, if artificial sweeteners caused a reduced (or zero) insulin response (which science says they do), and thus lowered the risk of obesity, then a (tenuous, though real) causal link can be made between saving lives, and artificial sweeteners, no?

josai 12y ago
The parent linked to a study demonstrating a link between aspartame and obesity. Did you even look at it before you wrote your facetious little reply? If you do, you'll notice it says the opposite of what you seem to think it does. And stop invoking the word "science" like it's an infallible deity whispering in your (and only your) ear. Science is a process and IMO the result is not in on this one yet.
- 1stop 12y ago
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aspartame_controversy https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aspartame_controversy Okay, I get it, you are upset that I implied you were an anti-vaccer. I'm sorry for being facetious too: No smiling, serious business here. > Science is a process and IMO the result is not in on this one yet. On aspartame it's well and truly in. That's my point. If I haven't provided enough references, just google[0] it and read ALL the science. It's been studied to death and back again. I hate to say it, but now you're the one being a dick. :( [0] scholar.google.com
cornholio 12y ago
It's not a link (causation), it's an association (correlation). Which should be more than obvious, fat people drink diet coke precisely because they are fat, it makes no sense to prefer that wretched taste if you are not weight-conscious.
- saalweachter 12y ago
  There is a lot of variation in how people taste artificial sweeteners. In my informal surveys, some people think Diet Coke tastes sweeter than regular Coke, and some people think regular Coke tastes sweeter. In general, people seem to prefer the one that tastes less sweet.