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> This is quite common in Europe. The fuck it is.

• sillysaurus3 12y ago
  Parent comment provided a source.
  • huhtenberg 12y ago
    But not for the actual claim of "quite common in Europe". I am in Europe it's inconceivable that any common carrier would try and pull a stunt like this here.
    • DanBC 12y ago
      UK doesn't have any concept of "commin carrier". BT, a large company in the UK, has done exactly this, using a collaboration with FON to start but using their own tech now. This has been happening for years. http://ais.globalservices.bt.com/static/assets/insights_and_ideas/innovation/pdf/CS_openwifi%20innovation.pdf http://ais.globalservices.bt.com/static/assets/insights_and_... EDIT: the wikipedia article shows many FON collaborations with large telecoms providers across Europe.
      • huhtenberg 12y ago
        Yep, except Fon has an opt-out option, it's opt-in to begin with in a lot of places and it's done with user's knowledge and explicit permission, not behind their backs as Comcast did it. So, no, what Comcast did is not quite common in Europe.
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        • lotsofmangos 12y ago
          Comcast's service has an opt out option and was announced a year ago. I don't like to be standing up for them, but you are misrepresenting things a bit.
    • lotsofmangos 12y ago
      Here's Fon's figures from 8 years ago - 1 – Spain – 6344 (28 new yesterday) registered users 2 – United States – 6334 (11 new yesterday) registered users 3 – France – 2571 (15 new yesterday) registered users 4 – Germany – 1302 (12 new yesterday) registered users 5 – Italy – 1269 (15 new yesterday) registered users 6 – United Kingdom – 1039 (4 new yesterday) registered users 7 – Netherlands – 760 (2 new yesterday) registered users 8 – Sweden – 721 (1 new yesterday) registered users 9 – Argentina – 636 (3 new yesterday) registered users 10 – Canada – 382 (0 new yesterday) registered users 11 – Switzerland – 331 (1 new yesterday) registered users 12 – Belgium – 296 (0 new yesterday) registered users 13 – Portugal – 237 (0 new yesterday) registered users 14 – Mexico – 208 (0 new yesterday) registered users 15 – Japan – 198 (2 new yesterday) registered users 16 – Chile – 195 (0 new yesterday) registered users 17 – Austria – 177 (1 new yesterday) registered users 18 – Ireland – 170 (0 new yesterday) registered users 19 – Brazil – 169 (0 new yesterday) registered users 20 – Denmark – 135 (1 new yesterday) registered users 21 – Israel – 129 (0 new yesterday) registered users 22 – Norway – 125 (0 new yesterday) registered users 23 – China – 120 (0 new yesterday) registered users 24 – Australia – 109 (1 new yesterday) registered users 25 – Finland – 108 (0 new yesterday) registered users 26 – Poland – 85 (0 new yesterday) registered users 27 – India – 77 (1 new yesterday) registered users 28 – Colombia – 74 (0 new yesterday) registered users 29 – Venezuela – 71 (0 new yesterday) registered users 30 – Estonia – 63 (0 new yesterday) registered users http://english.martinvarsavsky.net/fon/fonas-top-30-countries-usaspain.html http://english.martinvarsavsky.net/fon/fonas-top-30-countrie... and their current map - http://maps.fon.com/ http://maps.fon.com/
      • huhtenberg 12y ago
        And how many are auto-enabled by the ISPs without any notice and no way to opt-out?
        • lotsofmangos 12y ago
          How do I disable/enable the XFINITY WiFi Home Hotspot feature? We encourage all subscribers to keep this feature enabled as it allows more people to enjoy the benefits of XFINITY WiFi around the neighborhood. You will always have the ability to disable the XFINITY WiFi feature on your Wireless Gateway by calling 1-800-XFINITY. You can also visit My Account at http://customer.comcast.com/ http://customer.comcast.com/, click on “Users & Preferences”, and then select “Manage XFINITY WiFi.” http://wifi.comcast.com/faqs.html http://wifi.comcast.com/faqs.html edit - and it was announced in June of last year apparently. Though they may have had a sign on the door saying 'beware of the leopard'.
• daveoflynn 12y ago
  I live in France & all the major telcos* do this. It's an advertised part of the services. * At least: Orange, Bouygues, SFR, Free.
• 1gn1t10n 12y ago
  I know for a fact that at least two major ISPs in France already do this (SFR, Free).
  • illumen 12y ago
    and in Spain, Germany, Portugal, Italy, and the United Kingdom. Which covers quite a lot of Europe already, not even counting the rest of the places that do this.
• mverwijs 12y ago
  Both the Netherlands and Belgium have ISPs that do this, with the slight difference that they Wifi is only accessible to customers of the same ISP.
• aspidistra 12y ago
  As well as those listed by other commenters, there are other FON collaborations listed here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BTFON#Collaborations https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BTFON#Collaborations Belgium, Germany, Greece, Jersey...
• zo1 12y ago
  We also have it in Africa... Although only relatively new.
• lotsofmangos 12y ago
  look at this map - http://www.btfon.com/maps http://www.btfon.com/maps