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I'm unsure if "role" is a useful way to think about the Watchmen. Since the 60's there have been plenty of "adult" comics with sex and violence, and with the Wa
by jcr 12y ago
I'm unsure if "role" is a useful way to think about the Watchmen. Since
the 60's there have been plenty of "adult" comics with sex and violence,
and with the Watchmen being released in 1986 (I think), the adult themes
weren't anything new. The "new" things I remember about The Watchmen, at
the time, were (1) increased popularity of a mature themed story, and
(2) the sales success of an adult themed story by a major publisher.
Similar could be said for the "Superhero without superpowers" plot
device, and "Heroes with fairly regular human problems" plot device. The
plot devices were old and well tested by the time they were used in The
Watchmen.
On the other hand, the idea of using a limited series outside of the
normal (cannon) universe to both introduce new heroes and kill them off
in the same book/series was a deviation from the usual comics industry
methods (for maximizing profits). Of course, DC eventually did a
follow-on prequel "Before Watchmen" in 2012 after the release of the
movie adaptation of the original in 2009. The price of success in comics
is typically repeated dilution.
Permanently killing heroes became normalized in 1988 with "A Death In
The Family" when they killed the second Robin in Batman (and started the
"Replaceable Robin" and/or "Replaceable Sidekick" trope).
I've never seen the Watchmen as an analogy to the comics industry. After
all, it was from one of the big two publishers. To me, the Watchmen was
mostly just a product of its time; at the height of the seemingly
endless threat of the cold war when everyone wanted the cold war to end.
The trope of "endless threat resolved with substantial losses and
significant change" was fairly prevalent in stories from the mid 80's.
To some degree, the trope is still reused in current works, but to a far
lesser degree. The toughest thing to grasp is what the mid-80's were
like, and unless you're in your mid-40's or older, it will be tough for
most to imagine. If I didn't know what the time was like, I doubt I'd
consider the Watchmen to be such a fantastic story.
- vidarh 12y ago> On the other hand, the idea of using a limited series outside of the normal (cannon) universe to both introduce new heroes and kill them off in the same book/series Alan Moore actually originally wanted to use a bunch of characters that DC had just bought, in order for the characters to be recognized to the readers before he revealed their flaws and/or killed them off. Needless to say, the DC editor that read his proposal did not believe DC would be willing to have characters they'd just spent good money on killed off, or (much worse - death does not need to be permanent in these universes after all -), morally compromised in a way that readers would not forget. So Moore was convinced to go back and find a way to make it work with new characters.
- jcr 12y agoI didn't know that. Fantastic comment. Thank you. It got me thinking about both how and why Moore was able to make it work with new characters. I think one of the major reasons how/why it worked with new characters is neatly stated on Wikipedia: > "All but the last issue feature supplemental fictional documents that add to the series' backstory ... Structured as a nonlinear narrative, the story skips through space, time and plot." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Watchmen http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Watchmen