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I'm not talking about do-notation. There's plenty of black magic in Haskell. The overuse of operators and abstractions over everything makes it impossible to ev

I'm not talking about do-notation. There's plenty of black magic in Haskell. The overuse of operators and abstractions over everything makes it impossible to even figure out what a given function will be taking as parameters, never mind what a function actually does. I want to think in terms of actual, concrete pieces of data. Types are just definitions for shapes of data. I can't think at the level of "X takes a Y", I think at the level of "the x function takes the result of the y function". Haskell is obviously not the language for me.

innguest 12y ago
I'd be very interested in trying to clarify some of the difficulties you're having with Haskell, if you'd be interested. I'm working on a tutorial to take people from zero to functional programming thinking and understanding the intuition, and I need people that are interested in learning Haskell but are currently experiencing difficulties grasping the concepts in order to understand which things are the common obstacles. If you're interested, please email me (my profile should have my email, if not just answer if interested and we'll figure out a way). Thanks!