> I have a friend however that shudders every time I mention making programming more visual. Whenever someone mentions making _programming_ more visual I just

> I have a friend however that shudders every time I mention making programming more visual. Whenever someone mentions making _programming_ more visual I just get this feeling I don't really understand what they mean. The act of programming is just text to me. Doing simulations, measurements and what not can be visual, but the only way I can see "visual programming" is clunky and cumbersome. I don't know if I'm just misunderstanding people, but the composition of code doesn't need to be anything else than text-based in my opinion. Edit: I have seen some of Bret Victor's tools and his tool for visualizing change in game programming is very cool and I'm sure very helpful, but that is a very, very specific thing and whenever you take it out of that context it becomes so much less interesting and helpful. I'm not advocating just giving up on the whole idea, but I feel like people are trying to generalize things that they've only imagined for very specific purposes.