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I think the author is wrong about the possibilities for UBER raising prices. One such option combining trips of 2 passengers(or more) who seek a trip from simil

by hershel 12y ago

I think the author is wrong about the possibilities for UBER raising prices. One such option combining trips of 2 passengers(or more) who seek a trip from similar starting locations to similar destinations. Such option could easily increase demand, be more cost efficient and higher margin and be highly dependent on market reach , which makes it very difficult to replicate. And i'm sure UBER has some data to demonstrate this and other attractive options to investors[1], which make it much harder for us non-insiders to truly evaluate UBER. [1]A similar example is the nest acquisition, which raised many eyebrows and guesses, but it appears they had a "secret" way to monetize their service - selling demand response services to utilities.

gedrap 12y ago
>>> combining trips of 2 passengers(or more) who seek a trip from similar starting locations to similar destinations. I think this is a totally different business modal. I am not sure if many customers would like sharing a cab with a stranger. But it happens in Beijing, especially when the demand is super high (e.g. 2 hours queue in a rail station). Well at least it happened to me :)
- antsar 12y ago
  It happens in the US (where I live in New Jersey, anyway) as well. And its one of the numerous reasons I refuse to take cabs, as long as Uber or an alternative is available.
dhehir 12y ago
Share splitting already exists (at least in SF) http://www.takehitch.com/ http://www.takehitch.com/
- hershel 12y ago
  AFAIK, not at scale, which makes all that difference in that kind of business.
potatolicious 12y ago
I'm not sure if ride-sharing (in the actual, non-bullshit notion of the word) would count as raising prices though. It would increase per-driver revenue, certainly, but probably decrease Uber revenue fairly significantly. Taxi services, whether in the old fashioned way our the glitzed-up smartphone way, are pretty commodity. The success of budget competitors like Lyft and Sidecar is testament to this. The perpetual expansion of UberX too. It seems most people are more concerned about getting from A to B cheaply than any kind of premium lap-of-luxury service. A ride-splitting service would be pretty great for consumers and maybe for drivers, but from Uber's side it would be a pretty substantial price cut.
- jyrkesh 12y ago
  I think what he's trying to say is that Uber could raise prices "per-trip", split the cost of those trips with 2+ passengers, and actually decrease the cost "per-user" of each trip. If the decrease in price increased demand enough, overall revenue could go up while the consumer feels like they're getting a price decrease (albeit, they now have to share most of their rides, which may feel like a service decrease).
  - potatolicious 12y ago
    I get that - I just don't think it'll happen. Instead you'll have 2 people who had a price ceiling of $10 each being transported for $16. Great for the driver, great for the two passengers, bad for Uber.
    - hershel 12y ago
      On a $10 fare , UBER gets $2(or $4 for 2 trips) , the driver gets $8 For the $16 trip, let's say UBER gives $10 for the driver(instead of ~$8), and takes $6. UBER still comes ahead. And don't forget the huge lockup it gets - which is valuable in and off itself, esp. in the long term as a basis for self driving cars service. There's of course the issue of decreased traffic for drivers, but there's probably a strategy to make it work.

by hershel 12y ago

gedrap 12y ago

>>> combining trips of 2 passengers(or more) who seek a trip from similar starting locations to similar destinations. I think this is a totally different business modal. I am not sure if many customers would like sharing a cab with a stranger. But it happens in Beijing, especially when the demand is super high (e.g. 2 hours queue in a rail station). Well at least it happened to me :)

antsar 12y ago
It happens in the US (where I live in New Jersey, anyway) as well. And its one of the numerous reasons I refuse to take cabs, as long as Uber or an alternative is available.

dhehir 12y ago

Share splitting already exists (at least in SF) http://www.takehitch.com/ http://www.takehitch.com/

hershel 12y ago
AFAIK, not at scale, which makes all that difference in that kind of business.

potatolicious 12y ago

I'm not sure if ride-sharing (in the actual, non-bullshit notion of the word) would count as raising prices though. It would increase per-driver revenue, certainly, but probably decrease Uber revenue fairly significantly. Taxi services, whether in the old fashioned way our the glitzed-up smartphone way, are pretty commodity. The success of budget competitors like Lyft and Sidecar is testament to this. The perpetual expansion of UberX too. It seems most people are more concerned about getting from A to B cheaply than any kind of premium lap-of-luxury service. A ride-splitting service would be pretty great for consumers and maybe for drivers, but from Uber's side it would be a pretty substantial price cut.

jyrkesh 12y ago
I think what he's trying to say is that Uber could raise prices "per-trip", split the cost of those trips with 2+ passengers, and actually decrease the cost "per-user" of each trip. If the decrease in price increased demand enough, overall revenue could go up while the consumer feels like they're getting a price decrease (albeit, they now have to share most of their rides, which may feel like a service decrease).
- potatolicious 12y ago
  I get that - I just don't think it'll happen. Instead you'll have 2 people who had a price ceiling of $10 each being transported for $16. Great for the driver, great for the two passengers, bad for Uber.
  - hershel 12y ago
    On a $10 fare , UBER gets $2(or $4 for 2 trips) , the driver gets $8 For the $16 trip, let's say UBER gives $10 for the driver(instead of ~$8), and takes $6. UBER still comes ahead. And don't forget the huge lockup it gets - which is valuable in and off itself, esp. in the long term as a basis for self driving cars service. There's of course the issue of decreased traffic for drivers, but there's probably a strategy to make it work.