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I have to say, this[1] looks downright impressive. Congrats everyone! Edit: To add a bit more to the conversation, does the change from Canonical to Blue Syste

by ama729 12y ago

I have to say, this[1] looks downright impressive. Congrats everyone! Edit: To add a bit more to the conversation, does the change from Canonical to Blue Systems[2] changed much to the development of Kubuntu/KDE? [1] https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-asFPvnoidnw/U4cXbGCcv2I/AAAAAAAAM3I/dEIyVSNFf_w/s1600/SystemSettings-New_zpsce8cb0ac.png https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-asFPvnoidnw/U4cXbGCcv2I/AAAAAAAAM... [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue_Systems https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue_Systems

KAMiKAZOW 12y ago
Canonical never contributed much to KDE. Yes, a few bits here and there but overall mostly negligible. Blue Systems OTOH is a big KDE contributor. Things like KDE Search improved a lot thanks to Blue's involvement. As for Kubuntu: It appears to me that mostly the same people are involved with it. The only KDE thing mostly specific to Kubuntu is Muon (and that's being ported to Debian as we speak). Everything else by Blue Systems is AFAIK cross-distro. The Kubuntu guys already announced that Canonical's own display server Mir is not an option. Therefore it remains to be seen how feasible Kubuntu remains with Canonical pushing a Wayland competitor.
baldfat 12y ago
Only my opinion and probably wrong BUT KUbuntu = Worst KDE integration and the cause for why so many people have a negative view of KDE! OpenSUSE = Best KDE integration
- pestaa 12y ago
  What makes you say KDE is badly integrated in Kubuntu?
  - KAMiKAZOW 12y ago
    Kubuntu constantly ships pre-release software. One example in the current "stable" LTS is this touchpad config panel: http://imgur.com/JIuCNqg http://imgur.com/JIuCNqg
- Zardoz84 12y ago
  But OpenSUSE not have apt-get
  - eddyb 12y ago
    Having used both zypper and apt-get, I find the latter very lacking, even when coupled with other tools. Take `zypper se -s`, for example - or if you prefer the long form, `zypper search --detailed`. How do you get that information from any of the apt tools, or even aptitude? And then there's the openSUSE build system. But I digress. I will attempt to replace my openSUSE installation with NixOS and if I miss my automatic KF5 builds, I'll try to create Nix packages for them.
    - baldfat 12y ago
      Off Topic: Zypper is by far my favorite package manager and find apt-get and company a PAIN. apt-cache search foo UGH!
- panzi 12y ago
  Last time I used KUbuntu it was pretty much horrible. (E.g. only 6 month maintained and after that the repo did go offline so my installed system was broken (couldn't even install old pkgs from the DVD because of dependencies)). But the config tools from SuSE where also horrible (convoluted and so slow!), so I use the Fedora KDE spin now.

by ama729 12y ago

KAMiKAZOW 12y ago

Canonical never contributed much to KDE. Yes, a few bits here and there but overall mostly negligible. Blue Systems OTOH is a big KDE contributor. Things like KDE Search improved a lot thanks to Blue's involvement. As for Kubuntu: It appears to me that mostly the same people are involved with it. The only KDE thing mostly specific to Kubuntu is Muon (and that's being ported to Debian as we speak). Everything else by Blue Systems is AFAIK cross-distro. The Kubuntu guys already announced that Canonical's own display server Mir is not an option. Therefore it remains to be seen how feasible Kubuntu remains with Canonical pushing a Wayland competitor.

baldfat 12y ago

Only my opinion and probably wrong BUT KUbuntu = Worst KDE integration and the cause for why so many people have a negative view of KDE! OpenSUSE = Best KDE integration

pestaa 12y ago
What makes you say KDE is badly integrated in Kubuntu?
- KAMiKAZOW 12y ago
  Kubuntu constantly ships pre-release software. One example in the current "stable" LTS is this touchpad config panel: http://imgur.com/JIuCNqg http://imgur.com/JIuCNqg
Zardoz84 12y ago
But OpenSUSE not have apt-get
- eddyb 12y ago
  Having used both zypper and apt-get, I find the latter very lacking, even when coupled with other tools. Take `zypper se -s`, for example - or if you prefer the long form, `zypper search --detailed`. How do you get that information from any of the apt tools, or even aptitude? And then there's the openSUSE build system. But I digress. I will attempt to replace my openSUSE installation with NixOS and if I miss my automatic KF5 builds, I'll try to create Nix packages for them.
  - baldfat 12y ago
    Off Topic: Zypper is by far my favorite package manager and find apt-get and company a PAIN. apt-cache search foo UGH!
panzi 12y ago
Last time I used KUbuntu it was pretty much horrible. (E.g. only 6 month maintained and after that the repo did go offline so my installed system was broken (couldn't even install old pkgs from the DVD because of dependencies)). But the config tools from SuSE where also horrible (convoluted and so slow!), so I use the Fedora KDE spin now.