We'd never met Karen when she was working for us with our mortgage company. A few years later we hired her and a couple of other VA's to help us with work. As

We'd never met Karen when she was working for us with our mortgage company. A few years later we hired her and a couple of other VA's to help us with work. As we started to ramp that out, both Joe and I flew out to the Philippines to meet up in person, check out office space, etc.