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Read the rest of the conversation: >What about grabbing the 9 views, 8 views, etc? We have more time! >The problem is that at some point, we end up with a

Read the rest of the conversation: >What about grabbing the 9 views, 8 views, etc? We have more time! >The problem is that at some point, we end up with a LOT of disk space used for VERY obscure videos. >Normally, archive team does not care, but in this case, the disk space will increase to over 1.1pb. PETABYTE >That's space that can be used to save a LOT of other work out there that needs love. Tough decision.

xhrpost 12y ago
I wonder if Usenet is at all a consideration for excess archival. Any NSP I've heard of allows for unlimited uploads. Sounds like a good use for the archaic system.
- duskwuff 12y ago
  Not an option. Usenet doesn't preserve data long-term; it's effectively an epheremal medium. (Some archives do exist, but they almost all skip high-traffic groups.)
  - xhrpost 12y ago
    Most premium providers haven't deleted binaries in several years. At worst, it could at least be temporary archival until more permanent storage is acquired in the future. For example, place the 0 views Justin.TV vids there until ArchiveTeam and justify the space themselves.
    - sp332 12y ago
      0-view vids are over (estimated) 1,000 TB! I don't think most Usenet providers have that spare capacity.
      - xhrpost 12y ago
        Yea, that's a valid point. I'm pretty sure some could handle it, but many peers may not be able to. Using Usenet for mass archives would have to be done gradually. "more than 25 petabytes of Usenet messages on the Giganews servers." ... "Giganews is 50 percent bigger today than at this point last year and we continue to add servers with this kind of growth in mind." [1] I just think it's an under utilized medium for this sort of media conservation. 1 - http://www.giganews.com/blog/2014/01/giganews-reaches-2000-days-of-retention.html http://www.giganews.com/blog/2014/01/giganews-reaches-2000-d...

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Read the rest of the conversation: >What about grabbing the 9 views, 8 views, etc? We have more time! >The problem is that at some point, we end up with a

by ANTSANTS 12y ago

xhrpost 12y ago
I wonder if Usenet is at all a consideration for excess archival. Any NSP I've heard of allows for unlimited uploads. Sounds like a good use for the archaic system.
- duskwuff 12y ago
  Not an option. Usenet doesn't preserve data long-term; it's effectively an epheremal medium. (Some archives do exist, but they almost all skip high-traffic groups.)
  - xhrpost 12y ago
    Most premium providers haven't deleted binaries in several years. At worst, it could at least be temporary archival until more permanent storage is acquired in the future. For example, place the 0 views Justin.TV vids there until ArchiveTeam and justify the space themselves.
    - sp332 12y ago
      0-view vids are over (estimated) 1,000 TB! I don't think most Usenet providers have that spare capacity.
      - xhrpost 12y ago
        Yea, that's a valid point. I'm pretty sure some could handle it, but many peers may not be able to. Using Usenet for mass archives would have to be done gradually. "more than 25 petabytes of Usenet messages on the Giganews servers." ... "Giganews is 50 percent bigger today than at this point last year and we continue to add servers with this kind of growth in mind." [1] I just think it's an under utilized medium for this sort of media conservation. 1 - http://www.giganews.com/blog/2014/01/giganews-reaches-2000-days-of-retention.html http://www.giganews.com/blog/2014/01/giganews-reaches-2000-d...