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Right on. Those of us outside the states just don't care that one of your politicians died - unless he was a competent computer expert. I come here for "Hacker
by stevoski 17y ago
Right on. Those of us outside the states just don't care that one of your politicians died - unless he was a competent computer expert. I come here for "Hacker News", not political death notices.
Shall I post here when a long-serving New Zealand politician dies?
- akd 17y agoYes, you should. The voting buttons will determine the fate of the story.
- fauigerzigerk 17y agoVoting behaviour may depend on what people have to say about the article.
- plinkplonk 17y ago"Shall I post here when a long-serving New Zealand politician dies?" Ahh but you aren't going to get the upvotes to get it onto the HN front page. HN membership is dominated by Americans. No harm in that really except for stuff like this. As an Indian, I don't particularly care to have US politics / news of the demise of sundry USA politicians on the HN front page either, but the "intellectually interesting" filter is wide enough to allow this kind of thing to happen occasionally. I think of it as static on an otherwise clear channel, and wait for it to pass. As long as there are enough people to upvote these stories, I don't think there is anything anyone can do about it. Just wait for it to drop off the front page. But otoh, perhaps the non USA contingent on HN should vote up the news of the death of some non US politician and keep it on the front page? Maybe one of the communist bosses of China when he goes to the big Party Office in The Sky.
- davidw 17y agoThere's also a "no politics" bit, and I don't know if there's much to discuss about Ted Kennedy if you're not talking politics. See comments below.
- palish 17y agoSo click the "flag" button on the article. If enough of us flag it, then the article gets killed.
- plinkplonk 17y ago"If enough of us flag it, then the article gets killed." I am sure many people are flagging this article. That said, I'd be very surprised if this story got killed. I think the "get enough flags and the story gets automatically killed" feature is overridden for stories with a large number of upvotes and needs moderator approval. I suspect this is one of those cases where the majority of American HN users can't see why this submission is not significant and worthy of HN attention and the majority of non Americans are wondering why it is. As a thought experiment, if the majority of HN users were, say, Russians, I doubt this story would be on the front page or the top news item. But then the occasional Russian political news would leak through the "intellectually interesting" lens and the non Russians would be complaining!
- palish 17y agoI doubt many people were flagging the story because the "flag" feature is very subtle. Maybe now that someone has mentioned flagging, this story will soon be dead. I guess time will tell.
- icey 17y agoI'm fairly sure that some of these get left alive because people insist on submitting it over and over again if the post gets [dead]ed.
- biohacker42 17y agoI'm not sure it's American vs non-American. As originally pointed out, this will be covered in great detail in the American mainstream media. It was on the radio as I woke up this morning, it was on the TV as I headed out the door. It's in the NYT. It already is and will be everywhere. Thus even for Americans, what's the point of ALSO having it on HN? The discussion? But how can any discussion on this topic be anything other then politics?
- JacobAldridge 17y agoAs an Australian, I care. The influence of America on the rest of the world, particularly insignificant antipodean islands like yours and mine, is massive and the death of Democratic Senator #60 (I'm counting the two independents where they caucus) has potentially large consequences for the power struggle in Washington. That's it's Teddy Kennedy, long-time driver of Health Care reform at a time when that's either the #1 or 2 issue in the States, makes it even more so. You don't think efficiencies for Big Pharma in the US would affect our health care? Admittedly, I'm a bit of an amerophile, particularly US politics. The US Electoral College? Possibly the greatest social hack of the 18th Century.
- gruseom 17y agoAnd the hack to reform it by getting state legislatures to pass majority-wins measures isn't too shabby either.
- cturner 17y agoIt's not hacker news. If you want the nytimes you know where to find it. This post is pollution.
- biohacker42 17y agoThe US Electoral College? Possibly the greatest social hack of the 18th Century. Are you kidding?
- Oompa 17y agoTed Kennedy was a well known political hacker.
- _pius 17y agoIf you want. But the sad fact is, no one will care about that story. And if people do care, the story will get a bunch of upvotes. Let the voting and flagging systems work their magic.