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I call BS on this. No sources and burying all that engine oil and diesel would contravene a mountain of regulations. http://m.huffpost.com/uk/entry/5459717 ht

by mocko 12y ago

I call BS on this. No sources and burying all that engine oil and diesel would contravene a mountain of regulations. http://m.huffpost.com/uk/entry/5459717 http://m.huffpost.com/uk/entry/5459717

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jrockway 12y ago
This article derides the other for not having any sources, but still doesn't actually have a source that says, "no, there are zero buried diggers". There's a screenshot of Twitter and some guy saying "my company wouldn't do that". I think we still have no idea if this is done or not. Someone call a real journalist.
- ZenPro 12y ago
  You are asking someone to prove a negative? That is ludicrous. Imagine your statement applied to any other scenario such as law... Prove the person didn't commit the murder or he gets life. It is precisely why those alleging a hypothesis must prove the thesis, it is not the job of everyone else to disprove an unproven hypothesis.
  - jrockway 12y ago
    That escalated quickly! Yes, the fact that they can't find a source that says, "oh yeah, we bury those things all the time!" is certainly suspicious. But on the other hand, I don't trust any of the blogs involved to actually dig up a source. Instead they just post screenshots of Twitter, which doesn't really add any information.
    - ZenPro 12y ago
      In your mind how would that source verify JCB's are not there? They would have to ground-penetrate the entire City of London and Greater London conurbation.
      - ZenPro 12y ago
        Downvoted for being right again. Oh HN - you are nothing if not predictably petty. :-)
baha_man 12y ago
Surely the diesel and oil could be removed very easily? Anyway, this comment on the article you reference is interesting: "The truth is somewhere in between, if the JCB's were mini diggers and secondhand it would make economic sense to bury the kit and not a lot of space would be lost..." Also this quote from http://www.itv.com/news/london/2014-06-06/hundreds-of-jcb-diggers-have-been-buried-beneath-london/ http://www.itv.com/news/london/2014-06-06/hundreds-of-jcb-di...: "The diggers used are tiny little machines and they can be lifted out with a block and tackle. There is always an exit strategy for the equipment."
paul_f 12y ago
I'm going to agree, this strains credibility. If they can get the materials in to finish the basement, they can get the digger out. Any sane engineer could figure this out.

by mocko 12y ago

I call BS on this. No sources and burying all that engine oil and diesel would contravene a mountain of regulations. http://m.huffpost.com/uk/entry/5459717 http://m.huffpost.com/uk/entry/5459717

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jrockway 12y ago

This article derides the other for not having any sources, but still doesn't actually have a source that says, "no, there are zero buried diggers". There's a screenshot of Twitter and some guy saying "my company wouldn't do that". I think we still have no idea if this is done or not. Someone call a real journalist.

ZenPro 12y ago
You are asking someone to prove a negative? That is ludicrous. Imagine your statement applied to any other scenario such as law... Prove the person didn't commit the murder or he gets life. It is precisely why those alleging a hypothesis must prove the thesis, it is not the job of everyone else to disprove an unproven hypothesis.
- jrockway 12y ago
  That escalated quickly! Yes, the fact that they can't find a source that says, "oh yeah, we bury those things all the time!" is certainly suspicious. But on the other hand, I don't trust any of the blogs involved to actually dig up a source. Instead they just post screenshots of Twitter, which doesn't really add any information.
  - ZenPro 12y ago
    In your mind how would that source verify JCB's are not there? They would have to ground-penetrate the entire City of London and Greater London conurbation.
    - ZenPro 12y ago
      Downvoted for being right again. Oh HN - you are nothing if not predictably petty. :-)

baha_man 12y ago

Surely the diesel and oil could be removed very easily? Anyway, this comment on the article you reference is interesting: "The truth is somewhere in between, if the JCB's were mini diggers and secondhand it would make economic sense to bury the kit and not a lot of space would be lost..." Also this quote from http://www.itv.com/news/london/2014-06-06/hundreds-of-jcb-diggers-have-been-buried-beneath-london/ http://www.itv.com/news/london/2014-06-06/hundreds-of-jcb-di...: "The diggers used are tiny little machines and they can be lifted out with a block and tackle. There is always an exit strategy for the equipment."

paul_f 12y ago

I'm going to agree, this strains credibility. If they can get the materials in to finish the basement, they can get the digger out. Any sane engineer could figure this out.