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Not Rayiner, but he isn't speaking on behalf of Americans at large, but the subset of those who build and implement these features. Of that subset, there are a
by bmelton 12y ago
Not Rayiner, but he isn't speaking on behalf of Americans at large, but the subset of those who build and implement these features.
Of that subset, there are a variety of factors in play. They may believe that they are keeping the nation safe from terrorists or nefarious plots. They may be right. They might accept that some sacrifices are often made in trade for peace, security, and/or safety. They may believe that the features they're implementing aren't intended to be used against a non-specific populace. They may believe that these features are intended to be used only when activated as the result of a warrant, or in furtherance of a specific investigation, not en masse surveillance.
In some, maybe all of these cases, they may even be right.
I think you're casting those people in the same category of people who understand that they're building a tool to enslave the populace, and don't care, because they're either a) in on the joke, or b) getting paid for it. For sure, both categories of people exist, and I think you're trying to suggest that there are very few of the latter type (the completely amoral) than there are of the freedom-loving Americans who don't want enslavement, but there's a space in the middle for the former type (that believe in the mission, or believe in the constraints they were probably told exist), and Rayiner is simply suggesting that space is larger than you suspect.
I don't have any hard numbers on the matter at all, so I don't pretend to be authoritative, but having been a defense contractor, and helped to build a form of surveillance (though, in my case, it would have had to be narrowly targeted by necessity), I can say that I was at one point in the camp that believes law enforcement needs the tools to be effective. I have since defected to the "I weight the fourth amendment rights of Americans greater than the needs of law enforcement" camp, but as there is a large and thriving defense industry, clearly, not everybody has.
- lawnchair_larry 12y ago"Not Rayiner, but he isn't speaking on behalf of Americans at large, but the subset of those who build and implement these features." No, that's the thing. His repeated claim is that the majority of all Americans don't mind what the NSA are doing.