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Care to explain why you're not against it? I haven't found a single reason, which justifies to tap on a full comms link of a whole network. Not a single one.

pageld 12y ago
Safety is the only reason I ever get from anyone. "I have nothing to hide and if it finds terrorists, then I'm all for it" is an actual quote. I don't agree with that statement, but it's obviously out there.
- spacefight 12y ago
  Yeah right, a totally wrong illusion of safety.
- pavanred 12y ago
  In that case, won't wearing an anklet keep one even safer?
- Oras 12y ago
  This statement is true mate .. believe it or not
  - arzugula 12y ago
    The fact that what you are doing today has been deemed acceptable to the overseers is no guarantee that it will be tomorrow.
Oras 12y ago
If you lived in a country struggling from terrorism and corruption you'll understand my reasons. I don't mind losing my privacy for sake of safety of people.
- tomp 12y ago
  Neither did the Germans living under the Stasi. /s
- spacefight 12y ago
  I mind losing my privacy for the sake of issues affecting a tiny fraction of the population. I also wouldn't mind seeing some stats, that surveillance is an effective tool against the threats you listed.
  - Oras 12y ago
    I see your point and totally agree with it
- bodski 12y ago
  "Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." - Benjamin Franklin
  - russgray 12y ago
    I always disagreed with that quote, and hate it when people roll it out like it's some sort of irreproachable truth.
    - mpyne 12y ago
      Doesn't help that it's completely out of context as well, IIRC. But even in this quote the weasel word "essential" is included in the term "essential Liberty". So what is absolutely essential? Could there be legitimate disagreements on that?
- GotAnyMegadeth 12y ago
  If it's struggling from corruption then that is even worse. What happens when someone who is corrupt gets in charge of the surveillance? They could do anything, like have everyone they don't like branded as terrorists.
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pageld 12y ago

Safety is the only reason I ever get from anyone. "I have nothing to hide and if it finds terrorists, then I'm all for it" is an actual quote. I don't agree with that statement, but it's obviously out there.

spacefight 12y ago
Yeah right, a totally wrong illusion of safety.
pavanred 12y ago
In that case, won't wearing an anklet keep one even safer?
Oras 12y ago
This statement is true mate .. believe it or not
- arzugula 12y ago
  The fact that what you are doing today has been deemed acceptable to the overseers is no guarantee that it will be tomorrow.

Oras 12y ago

If you lived in a country struggling from terrorism and corruption you'll understand my reasons. I don't mind losing my privacy for sake of safety of people.

tomp 12y ago
Neither did the Germans living under the Stasi. /s
spacefight 12y ago
I mind losing my privacy for the sake of issues affecting a tiny fraction of the population. I also wouldn't mind seeing some stats, that surveillance is an effective tool against the threats you listed.
- Oras 12y ago
  I see your point and totally agree with it
bodski 12y ago
"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." - Benjamin Franklin
- russgray 12y ago
  I always disagreed with that quote, and hate it when people roll it out like it's some sort of irreproachable truth.
  - mpyne 12y ago
    Doesn't help that it's completely out of context as well, IIRC. But even in this quote the weasel word "essential" is included in the term "essential Liberty". So what is absolutely essential? Could there be legitimate disagreements on that?
GotAnyMegadeth 12y ago
If it's struggling from corruption then that is even worse. What happens when someone who is corrupt gets in charge of the surveillance? They could do anything, like have everyone they don't like branded as terrorists.
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