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Join us in funding women and minority iOS developers

13 points by LadyMartel 12y ago

staticelf 12y ago
Yes, help fund these people on the basis on what gender they have or if they have said nice things about other people with another gender or sexuality. Because _that's_ equality people! --- Edit: Downvoted immiedietly of course. Is it just me that thinks it's weird to have a community where we activly encourage to treat people special just because of their gender/sexuality/political thoughts. It's a bit like "fund me, I vote on Obama" or like the more hilarious "fund me because I want to get stinking rich". Each one of those tells me exactly the same on the work that person is doing. Jon Lajoie has a "kickstarter" for getting rich: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bSR3h1wUoS8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bSR3h1wUoS8
- romanovcode 12y ago
  I completely agree with this. IMO this is what constitutes as discrimination since it's favoring some particular group of people.
  - icebraining 12y ago
    An analogy: if you oppose violence, is it hypocrisy to support self-defense?
    - arzugula 12y ago
      Another analogy: if you oppose violence, is it hypocrisy to only teach self-defense to people born with blue eyes?
      - icebraining 12y ago
        So you're accusing them of only helping some minorities, not all? On what basis?
- icebraining 12y ago
  There are good arguments pro and against positive discrimination; but instead of making your point in a way that is conducive to debate, you went with mockery and sarcasm. I didn't downvote you, but I won't upvote you either, and it has nothing to do with your opinion, but how you decided to express it.
- namenotrequired 12y ago
  I'm confused, why do you refer to minority developers as people who "have said nice things about other people with another gender or sexuality"?
  - staticelf 12y ago
    Because there were some applicants that didn't look like they were in a minority group.
    - romanovcode 12y ago
      I also can add that a individual is minority in one place, but opposite in another. I would probably be a minority in Pakistan, or mainland China, or gazillion other places. Nobody would give me any special privileges there, mind you.
xiaoma 12y ago
This is especially concerning considering how poor of job public schools are doing for boys already. There's an absolutely massive gender gap in college enrollments (~59% female to 41% male) and yet more and more organizations are making "scholarships" of this sort. It's already ethically troubling to reward people based on their anatomy, but doing so in high school to the detriment of an already severely marginalized group is reprehensible. For boys coming from the poorer half of family backgrounds, a non-traditional path in tech is often their best or even only credible shot at a middle-class life. http://higheredlive.com/missing-men/ http://higheredlive.com/missing-men/ http://www.denverpost.com/ci_23717131/carroll-gender-gap-college-campuses http://www.denverpost.com/ci_23717131/carroll-gender-gap-col...

13 points by LadyMartel 12y ago

Yes, help fund these people on the basis on what gender they have or if they have said nice things about other people with another gender or sexuality. Because _that's_ equality people! --- Edit: Downvoted immiedietly of course. Is it just me that thinks it's weird to have a community where we activly encourage to treat people special just because of their gender/sexuality/political thoughts. It's a bit like "fund me, I vote on Obama" or like the more hilarious "fund me because I want to get stinking rich". Each one of those tells me exactly the same on the work that person is doing. Jon Lajoie has a "kickstarter" for getting rich: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bSR3h1wUoS8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bSR3h1wUoS8

romanovcode 12y ago
I completely agree with this. IMO this is what constitutes as discrimination since it's favoring some particular group of people.
- icebraining 12y ago
  An analogy: if you oppose violence, is it hypocrisy to support self-defense?
  - arzugula 12y ago
    Another analogy: if you oppose violence, is it hypocrisy to only teach self-defense to people born with blue eyes?
    - icebraining 12y ago
      So you're accusing them of only helping some minorities, not all? On what basis?
icebraining 12y ago
There are good arguments pro and against positive discrimination; but instead of making your point in a way that is conducive to debate, you went with mockery and sarcasm. I didn't downvote you, but I won't upvote you either, and it has nothing to do with your opinion, but how you decided to express it.
namenotrequired 12y ago
I'm confused, why do you refer to minority developers as people who "have said nice things about other people with another gender or sexuality"?
- staticelf 12y ago
  Because there were some applicants that didn't look like they were in a minority group.
  - romanovcode 12y ago
    I also can add that a individual is minority in one place, but opposite in another. I would probably be a minority in Pakistan, or mainland China, or gazillion other places. Nobody would give me any special privileges there, mind you.

xiaoma 12y ago

This is especially concerning considering how poor of job public schools are doing for boys already. There's an absolutely massive gender gap in college enrollments (~59% female to 41% male) and yet more and more organizations are making "scholarships" of this sort. It's already ethically troubling to reward people based on their anatomy, but doing so in high school to the detriment of an already severely marginalized group is reprehensible. For boys coming from the poorer half of family backgrounds, a non-traditional path in tech is often their best or even only credible shot at a middle-class life. http://higheredlive.com/missing-men/ http://higheredlive.com/missing-men/ http://www.denverpost.com/ci_23717131/carroll-gender-gap-college-campuses http://www.denverpost.com/ci_23717131/carroll-gender-gap-col...