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Verizon fios customer here. There has been a noticeable drop in the quality of streams in the past couple of months. The picture went from excellent > barely fu

by addflip 12y ago

Verizon fios customer here. There has been a noticeable drop in the quality of streams in the past couple of months. The picture went from excellent > barely functional(after the FCC ruling) > watchable(after the peering agreement) still not great. Kudos to Netflix.

theandrewbailey 12y ago
I noticed that Youtube performance went up around the time the peering agreement happened.
pwg 12y ago
Verizon FIOS customer here (with a "business" link, I wanted a static IP, which is not offered with "residential"). I've seen no change in download/upload performance myself. So I suspect they prioritize the "business class" customers above the "residential" customers. [EDIT]: fix a spelling typo.
- mbreese 12y ago
  The parent was referring directly to Netflix performance, not raw upload/download speeds...
- ep103 12y ago
  I've read elsewhere that business class internet connections are regulated by a different set of law than last mile residential connections.
flavor8 12y ago
Yeah, same here. I was watching a movie on Roku/Netflix 6 weeks or so ago. Quality was 2* (out of 4, meaning OK, but visible encoding artifacts now and again) and yet it still fell back to the buffering screen 8 times in 30 minutes. I got fed up and rented the same movie on Amazon (still on Roku) and watched it in HD without a single instance of buffering. After it was done I switched back to Netflix and tried to watch something else, and again hit buffering every couple of minutes. It's not usually that bad, but it clearly illustrates that somewhere in the Netflix -> Verizon connection that something is badly wrong.
- addflip 12y ago
  That's funny. I'm using a Roku as well and had pretty much the same experience except I rented a movie from M-Go. Of note, I'm paying for "Quantum" speeds 75/35.
  - flavor8 12y ago
    Yeah, likewise. On speedtest.net I'm 57 down, 38 up.
- massysett 12y ago
  Funny how Amazon works fine but Netflix doesn't, yet the groupthink here blames Verizon rather than Netflix.
  - flavor8 12y ago
    Note that I said "somewhere in the Netflix -> Verizon connection".
lucb1e 12y ago
For scientific purposes, could you buy a VPN service for a month and see if that makes it work better? Because then it's just super evil anti-net neutrality on Verizon's part and not actual congestion.

by addflip 12y ago

theandrewbailey 12y ago

I noticed that Youtube performance went up around the time the peering agreement happened.

pwg 12y ago

Verizon FIOS customer here (with a "business" link, I wanted a static IP, which is not offered with "residential"). I've seen no change in download/upload performance myself. So I suspect they prioritize the "business class" customers above the "residential" customers. [EDIT]: fix a spelling typo.

mbreese 12y ago
The parent was referring directly to Netflix performance, not raw upload/download speeds...
ep103 12y ago
I've read elsewhere that business class internet connections are regulated by a different set of law than last mile residential connections.

flavor8 12y ago

Yeah, same here. I was watching a movie on Roku/Netflix 6 weeks or so ago. Quality was 2* (out of 4, meaning OK, but visible encoding artifacts now and again) and yet it still fell back to the buffering screen 8 times in 30 minutes. I got fed up and rented the same movie on Amazon (still on Roku) and watched it in HD without a single instance of buffering. After it was done I switched back to Netflix and tried to watch something else, and again hit buffering every couple of minutes. It's not usually that bad, but it clearly illustrates that somewhere in the Netflix -> Verizon connection that something is badly wrong.

addflip 12y ago
That's funny. I'm using a Roku as well and had pretty much the same experience except I rented a movie from M-Go. Of note, I'm paying for "Quantum" speeds 75/35.
- flavor8 12y ago
  Yeah, likewise. On speedtest.net I'm 57 down, 38 up.
massysett 12y ago
Funny how Amazon works fine but Netflix doesn't, yet the groupthink here blames Verizon rather than Netflix.
- flavor8 12y ago
  Note that I said "somewhere in the Netflix -> Verizon connection".

lucb1e 12y ago

For scientific purposes, could you buy a VPN service for a month and see if that makes it work better? Because then it's just super evil anti-net neutrality on Verizon's part and not actual congestion.