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Show HN: Share many links? We made it better with highlights

26 points by eishaysmith 12y ago

mraison 12y ago
Software engineer at Kifi here. We've been working on this product for a year now, and are all very excited about how it's taking shape. We're of course extremely interested in any feedback you may have! http://www.kifi.com http://www.kifi.com and of course: http://www.42go.com/join_us.html http://www.42go.com/join_us.html (FortyTwo is the company behind Kifi)
- jacobwcarlson 12y ago
  Sorry to use HN for this, but how in the hell does one delete a "Keep"? I've been trying for 5 minutes to delete the samples and can't figure it out.
  - mraison 12y ago
    On http://www.kifi.com http://www.kifi.com you can select a Keep an on the right hand side you'll see a button to "Unkeep". http://bit.ly/1kNnQpg http://bit.ly/1kNnQpg Also if you are on a page that you want to unkeep, you can click to unkeep from the keeper tile. You can also unkeep when you are on the page, by clicking on the keeper in the lower right hand corner.
    - jacobwcarlson 12y ago
      Got it, thanks! I was confused as you couldn't unkeep after selecting a bunch of keeps at once. No one should ever design UX around me, as I'm weird, but something to perhaps keep in mind.
      - mraison 12y ago
        No you're right, that was a bit confusing - it should be fixed now :) Thanks for the feedback!
arjie 12y ago
I looked at the website but it's not clear to me what this looks like to the Kifi-non-user I email something to. I don't feel like signing up just to find that out. Does it look like the picture on the right? If so, it'd be clearer if the Gmail framing were present there too. Does it just become a link to a kifi page?
- JenG24 12y ago
  Great point! Here is what the full email looks like http://bit.ly/1l8XJOi http://bit.ly/1l8XJOi And yes! If you send this to a Kifi-non user they will get the experience that you see in the picture on the right. The image, title, and source directly to the 3rd party site you shared - not to Kifi.com.
  - arjie 12y ago
    Awesome! Thanks for sharing this with me. Looks great.
    - JenG24 12y ago
      Glad you like it! Thanks for replying and let us know what your friends think about it :)
jlarocco 12y ago
"Think about it. In order to share a webpage, you’ve got to open an email, copy and paste the link, and write out some sort of explanation to the recipient letting them know what the link is about. And if you want to point them to a specific section of the article or page you have to copy and paste those sections." Does anybody share links via email any more? Wouldn't 99.9% of the population use facebook, twitter or pintrest?
- codezero 12y ago
  I generally agree, but I still get links from some of my older family members :) In particular I get email links when my sister travels internationally (she uses a throw away email address rather than logging into main accounts/social media when traveling).
- koopajah 12y ago
  I maily share links/articles/videos through email with friends and family. This is way easier to do when you want to share a link with a specific group a friends/people and not with the "world" or "one person only".
- JenG24 12y ago
  Using Facebook, Twitter, and Pinterest usually means you are broadcasting content you want everyone to see and like. When you want a more contextual and relevant conversation with an individual or group, or you want to annotate with highlights on a page, we believe Kifi is a great solution.
- nilkn 12y ago
  I share links with friends over Facebook sometimes. Nobody I know uses Twitter or Pinterest. A decent number of my friends/family don't use Facebook either.
- sp332 12y ago
  I didn't even know it was possible to PM someone on Pinterest. I would guess that's not a very common use case.
krmmalik 12y ago
Very much what i've been looking/waiting for but how does it handle things when i share the link to a mailing list like a yahoo group for example?
- leogrim 12y ago
  As long as discuss@kifi.com is allowed to post to that group, it will work.
caio1982 12y ago
Really nice service, I'd like to use it. The support page says a few things about importing, but what about exporting? Not sure whether I overlooked it or not.
- atto 12y ago
  Yep, we're building that, it will be out with the site redesign coming out in the next couple weeks. Until then, if you'd like an export, contact support and we can send you a standard bookmark export file.
  - caio1982 12y ago
    Thanks! I'll keep an eye on it :-)
ameister14 12y ago
I just signed up to this and tested it out, and I have to say, it's awesome. I've used Dragdis for some of my bookmarking before, but the sharing ability coupled with the independent conversations linked to what I share makes this really neat. I like the fact that it's linked to email because I see myself using this with colleagues or a few select friends at a time, not sharing blindly. What are the limits for email sends on this? Is it managed by my provider?
- atto 12y ago
  (I work on Kifi) Right now the email limits are very loose. Legitimate usage won't run into anything. We're sending the emails ourselves, from a custom address for each link. When they reply, you get the reply instantly inside Kifi. When you send a link on Kifi, you'll be able to preview exactly what was emailed.
  - ameister14 12y ago
    So, right now I have to install the extension in order to use it, correct? Is there a plan to create an embedded widget that I can use to share content without the full functionality of the extension? I can see immediate applications as regards Pinterest, by the way. I just tested it out, and if you share a pin using Pinterest's system you get in your email a red button that you need to click to see whatever was shared. Using your system, I can share whatever the hell I want and don't have to redirect people to Pinterest in order to see it. Plus, I can have a private email conversation with people about what I sent them without being redirected. Nice. There are a lot of content partner applications as well; I think you guys are on to something with this.
    - atto 12y ago
      Yep, right now the extension is required. We're talking about future plans for people who like some of our features, but not everything — we want to be as unobtrusive as possible. Our primary goal is to enable people to keep and collaborate content easier than before. In addition to discussions, we have a full-text search engine that incorporates into Google results, showing links you've kept if they're relevant to your search. From that standpoint, we're a "much better bookmarking platform". Over time, we'll be helping people discover interesting content, too. This email-a-page feature is actually just our newest, and isn't the core of the product. However, it looks like many people really like this, stand alone. I'll bring this up with product, and see if we can come to something that will meet your needs. In a perfect world, would you like a more minimalistic extension that JUST did this, a bookmarklet, or something else? We want to be the easiest way to share and collaborate about content with others.

26 points by eishaysmith 12y ago

Software engineer at Kifi here. We've been working on this product for a year now, and are all very excited about how it's taking shape. We're of course extremely interested in any feedback you may have! http://www.kifi.com http://www.kifi.com and of course: http://www.42go.com/join_us.html http://www.42go.com/join_us.html (FortyTwo is the company behind Kifi)

jacobwcarlson 12y ago
Sorry to use HN for this, but how in the hell does one delete a "Keep"? I've been trying for 5 minutes to delete the samples and can't figure it out.
- mraison 12y ago
  On http://www.kifi.com http://www.kifi.com you can select a Keep an on the right hand side you'll see a button to "Unkeep". http://bit.ly/1kNnQpg http://bit.ly/1kNnQpg Also if you are on a page that you want to unkeep, you can click to unkeep from the keeper tile. You can also unkeep when you are on the page, by clicking on the keeper in the lower right hand corner.
  - jacobwcarlson 12y ago
    Got it, thanks! I was confused as you couldn't unkeep after selecting a bunch of keeps at once. No one should ever design UX around me, as I'm weird, but something to perhaps keep in mind.
    - mraison 12y ago
      No you're right, that was a bit confusing - it should be fixed now :) Thanks for the feedback!

arjie 12y ago

I looked at the website but it's not clear to me what this looks like to the Kifi-non-user I email something to. I don't feel like signing up just to find that out. Does it look like the picture on the right? If so, it'd be clearer if the Gmail framing were present there too. Does it just become a link to a kifi page?

JenG24 12y ago
Great point! Here is what the full email looks like http://bit.ly/1l8XJOi http://bit.ly/1l8XJOi And yes! If you send this to a Kifi-non user they will get the experience that you see in the picture on the right. The image, title, and source directly to the 3rd party site you shared - not to Kifi.com.
- arjie 12y ago
  Awesome! Thanks for sharing this with me. Looks great.
  - JenG24 12y ago
    Glad you like it! Thanks for replying and let us know what your friends think about it :)

jlarocco 12y ago

"Think about it. In order to share a webpage, you’ve got to open an email, copy and paste the link, and write out some sort of explanation to the recipient letting them know what the link is about. And if you want to point them to a specific section of the article or page you have to copy and paste those sections." Does anybody share links via email any more? Wouldn't 99.9% of the population use facebook, twitter or pintrest?

codezero 12y ago
I generally agree, but I still get links from some of my older family members :) In particular I get email links when my sister travels internationally (she uses a throw away email address rather than logging into main accounts/social media when traveling).
koopajah 12y ago
I maily share links/articles/videos through email with friends and family. This is way easier to do when you want to share a link with a specific group a friends/people and not with the "world" or "one person only".
JenG24 12y ago
Using Facebook, Twitter, and Pinterest usually means you are broadcasting content you want everyone to see and like. When you want a more contextual and relevant conversation with an individual or group, or you want to annotate with highlights on a page, we believe Kifi is a great solution.
nilkn 12y ago
I share links with friends over Facebook sometimes. Nobody I know uses Twitter or Pinterest. A decent number of my friends/family don't use Facebook either.
sp332 12y ago
I didn't even know it was possible to PM someone on Pinterest. I would guess that's not a very common use case.

krmmalik 12y ago

Very much what i've been looking/waiting for but how does it handle things when i share the link to a mailing list like a yahoo group for example?

leogrim 12y ago
As long as discuss@kifi.com is allowed to post to that group, it will work.

caio1982 12y ago

Really nice service, I'd like to use it. The support page says a few things about importing, but what about exporting? Not sure whether I overlooked it or not.

atto 12y ago
Yep, we're building that, it will be out with the site redesign coming out in the next couple weeks. Until then, if you'd like an export, contact support and we can send you a standard bookmark export file.
- caio1982 12y ago
  Thanks! I'll keep an eye on it :-)

ameister14 12y ago

I just signed up to this and tested it out, and I have to say, it's awesome. I've used Dragdis for some of my bookmarking before, but the sharing ability coupled with the independent conversations linked to what I share makes this really neat. I like the fact that it's linked to email because I see myself using this with colleagues or a few select friends at a time, not sharing blindly. What are the limits for email sends on this? Is it managed by my provider?

atto 12y ago
(I work on Kifi) Right now the email limits are very loose. Legitimate usage won't run into anything. We're sending the emails ourselves, from a custom address for each link. When they reply, you get the reply instantly inside Kifi. When you send a link on Kifi, you'll be able to preview exactly what was emailed.
- ameister14 12y ago
  So, right now I have to install the extension in order to use it, correct? Is there a plan to create an embedded widget that I can use to share content without the full functionality of the extension? I can see immediate applications as regards Pinterest, by the way. I just tested it out, and if you share a pin using Pinterest's system you get in your email a red button that you need to click to see whatever was shared. Using your system, I can share whatever the hell I want and don't have to redirect people to Pinterest in order to see it. Plus, I can have a private email conversation with people about what I sent them without being redirected. Nice. There are a lot of content partner applications as well; I think you guys are on to something with this.
  - atto 12y ago
    Yep, right now the extension is required. We're talking about future plans for people who like some of our features, but not everything — we want to be as unobtrusive as possible. Our primary goal is to enable people to keep and collaborate content easier than before. In addition to discussions, we have a full-text search engine that incorporates into Google results, showing links you've kept if they're relevant to your search. From that standpoint, we're a "much better bookmarking platform". Over time, we'll be helping people discover interesting content, too. This email-a-page feature is actually just our newest, and isn't the core of the product. However, it looks like many people really like this, stand alone. I'll bring this up with product, and see if we can come to something that will meet your needs. In a perfect world, would you like a more minimalistic extension that JUST did this, a bookmarklet, or something else? We want to be the easiest way to share and collaborate about content with others.