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Just losing weight is fairly easy. Keeping low body-fat % while maintaining decent amount of muscle is what is really challenging.

by klepra 12y ago

laichzeit0 12y ago
I have no idea why people are voting you down. It must be out of pure utter ignorance with no practical experience in trying to do this. As someone who weight lifts naturally what you said is factually correct viz. (a) it is as easy as counting calories and eating at a deficit. (b) it's difficult to eat at a deficit and keep muscle mass because you're essentially low on fuel and your body has to burn something for energy, trying to stay out of a catabolic state requires diligence.
- nemasu 12y ago
  I didn't down vote, but saying that losing weight is easy is like saying playing the piano is easy. In reality, they are indeed both easy, but you need determination and time.
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  - laichzeit0 12y ago
    Then the word easy is being used in two senses. Technically losing weight is extremely easy. It's a closed problem. It might be not-easy in a way that varies from individual to individual but to say that it's not-easy should be qualified in some sense to show that it's a psychological/will power/whatever problem and not because we have an incomplete understanding of nutrition.
  - huehue 12y ago
    As a concept it's easy. It's just that some people can't lay down the muffins.
- will_work4tears 12y ago
  It's simple. Not easy, IMO. I have quite a bit experience with it and it still can be a challenge, and it is drop dead easy to gain weight. See my post above. I have experience both in weightlifting and losing weight (not a whole lot, but 50lbs, which isn't something to sneeze at). If you actually have experience losing significant weight and you think it's a cakewalk, I think I'd accuse you of being disingenuous.
will_work4tears 12y ago
I disagree with losing weight being easy. It's easy in "theory," and if you only have 10-20lbs to lose it's pretty straightforward. Enter human psychology, "real life" (stress, kids, a job, social life, etc), and the fact that maybe you have 80lbs to lose. That, at a healthy pace, can take a full year to lose. Or 80 weeks (nearly a year and a half) if you go one pound a week. That's a long time to stick to a "diet." That's why most people need to focus on a lifestyle change. A Diet implies short term in most people's mind, and that's why most people revert. Yay, I lost 80lbs, now let's start eating donuts for breakfast, McDonalds for lunch, and pizza for dinner again. It's trivial to gain weight. It's harder, much harder, to lose it. FWIW, I'm a weightlifter. I've been as much as 50lbs overweight, lost that weight and kept it off for many years. I've also gone through the bodybuilding "bulking/cutting" cycle that was popular for so long (and maybe still is, I don't do that anymore), so I'm quite familiar with gaining 20-30lbs and cutting down again in cycles. So I know weightloss is straightforward and simple, but I totally disagree that it's easy.

Just losing weight is fairly easy. Keeping low body-fat % while maintaining decent amount of muscle is what is really challenging.

by klepra 12y ago

Just losing weight is fairly easy. Keeping low body-fat % while maintaining decent amount of muscle is what is really challenging.

laichzeit0 12y ago

I have no idea why people are voting you down. It must be out of pure utter ignorance with no practical experience in trying to do this. As someone who weight lifts naturally what you said is factually correct viz. (a) it is as easy as counting calories and eating at a deficit. (b) it's difficult to eat at a deficit and keep muscle mass because you're essentially low on fuel and your body has to burn something for energy, trying to stay out of a catabolic state requires diligence.

nemasu 12y ago
I didn't down vote, but saying that losing weight is easy is like saying playing the piano is easy. In reality, they are indeed both easy, but you need determination and time.
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- laichzeit0 12y ago
  Then the word easy is being used in two senses. Technically losing weight is extremely easy. It's a closed problem. It might be not-easy in a way that varies from individual to individual but to say that it's not-easy should be qualified in some sense to show that it's a psychological/will power/whatever problem and not because we have an incomplete understanding of nutrition.
- huehue 12y ago
  As a concept it's easy. It's just that some people can't lay down the muffins.
will_work4tears 12y ago
It's simple. Not easy, IMO. I have quite a bit experience with it and it still can be a challenge, and it is drop dead easy to gain weight. See my post above. I have experience both in weightlifting and losing weight (not a whole lot, but 50lbs, which isn't something to sneeze at). If you actually have experience losing significant weight and you think it's a cakewalk, I think I'd accuse you of being disingenuous.

will_work4tears 12y ago

I disagree with losing weight being easy. It's easy in "theory," and if you only have 10-20lbs to lose it's pretty straightforward. Enter human psychology, "real life" (stress, kids, a job, social life, etc), and the fact that maybe you have 80lbs to lose. That, at a healthy pace, can take a full year to lose. Or 80 weeks (nearly a year and a half) if you go one pound a week. That's a long time to stick to a "diet." That's why most people need to focus on a lifestyle change. A Diet implies short term in most people's mind, and that's why most people revert. Yay, I lost 80lbs, now let's start eating donuts for breakfast, McDonalds for lunch, and pizza for dinner again. It's trivial to gain weight. It's harder, much harder, to lose it. FWIW, I'm a weightlifter. I've been as much as 50lbs overweight, lost that weight and kept it off for many years. I've also gone through the bodybuilding "bulking/cutting" cycle that was popular for so long (and maybe still is, I don't do that anymore), so I'm quite familiar with gaining 20-30lbs and cutting down again in cycles. So I know weightloss is straightforward and simple, but I totally disagree that it's easy.