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Until Apple open Swift, I'm sorry, it's DOA.

• melling 12y ago
  I'm sorry but that's silly. While I really hope that Swift does become a cross-platform language, it's pretty safe to assume that it will become the defacto Apple development language. It offers way too much in terms of developer productivity.
• kennywinker 12y ago
  DOA (Dead On Arrival) implies that Swift will not be adopted by developers. If you're saying that, I disagree. It will almost definitely become the default way to write iOS apps very quickly. If you're saying it's "dead to me", that's valid. It would be good to see them open up the Swift toolchain, and there will definitely be a significant percentage of devs who won't touch it unless they do.
• jaegerpicker 12y ago
  This is WAY TOO early. Swift at the very least will very likely replace Objective-C which is nowhere near DOA. The fact is that there ARE a ton of developers that don't care if it's open or not.
• ketralnis 12y ago
  Objective-C is open source, but without Foundation et al it's pretty useless. As tied as Swift is to Cocoa, it's almost certainly going to be in the same boat. Put another way, how well does Objective-C do outside of Apple development?