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As a sanity check, here is the law in California (which, I assume, is relatively restrictive, since it's California...): It is illegal to leave a 6 years old o

by rsync 12y ago

As a sanity check, here is the law in California (which, I assume, is relatively restrictive, since it's California...): It is illegal to leave a 6 years old or younger unattended in a motor vehicle when: There are conditions that present a significant risk to the child's health or safety. Example: Leaving a child in a closed car on a very hot day. The vehicle's engine is running, the keys are in the ignition, or both. Children can start or move the car causing injuries and/or deaths to themselves or others. An opportunist may (and many have) seize the moment to jump in and drive your car away, child still strapped in.[1] So ... as long as there's nothing unsafe and the engine isn't running, you're "legal". [1] http://www.dmv.org/ca-california/safety-laws.php http://www.dmv.org/ca-california/safety-laws.php

darklajid 12y ago
Well, the article states that it wasn't illegal wherever that took place either. Somehow 'not illegal' is considered 'a grey area' though.. Which makes it even scarier. Excerpt for the people that just see your comment below (I = mother, He = lawyer): “I don’t get it,” I said to the lawyer. “Contributing to the delinquency of a minor? That makes no sense. It sounds like I was buying him beer.” He laughed. He told me he understood my confusion about the charge, but that it wasn’t that unusual. A few years before, the state had tried to pass an ordinance that would make it a misdemeanor to leave a child under 6 alone in a vehicle if the conditions within the vehicle or in the immediate vicinity of the vehicle presented a risk to the health or safety of the child. The penalty for a first offense would be a $100 civil penalty, in other words, a ticket. But the legislation didn’t pass, and so instead, the act of leaving a kid in a car would continue to fall into a legal gray area. The lawyer explained that the crime of contributing to the delinquency of a minor included “rendering a minor in need of services.” So, for example, he said, “If you’d left him there and not come back, someone from social services would have needed to come, bring him in, make sure he was safe and such.”
- grecy 12y ago
  > Well, the article states that it wasn't illegal wherever that took place either. Somehow 'not illegal' is considered 'a grey area' though It's my observation that anything that is "not illegal" in the US now means "We'll find a creative way to stop you doing it".

by rsync 12y ago

darklajid 12y ago

Well, the article states that it wasn't illegal wherever that took place either. Somehow 'not illegal' is considered 'a grey area' though.. Which makes it even scarier. Excerpt for the people that just see your comment below (I = mother, He = lawyer): “I don’t get it,” I said to the lawyer. “Contributing to the delinquency of a minor? That makes no sense. It sounds like I was buying him beer.” He laughed. He told me he understood my confusion about the charge, but that it wasn’t that unusual. A few years before, the state had tried to pass an ordinance that would make it a misdemeanor to leave a child under 6 alone in a vehicle if the conditions within the vehicle or in the immediate vicinity of the vehicle presented a risk to the health or safety of the child. The penalty for a first offense would be a $100 civil penalty, in other words, a ticket. But the legislation didn’t pass, and so instead, the act of leaving a kid in a car would continue to fall into a legal gray area. The lawyer explained that the crime of contributing to the delinquency of a minor included “rendering a minor in need of services.” So, for example, he said, “If you’d left him there and not come back, someone from social services would have needed to come, bring him in, make sure he was safe and such.”

grecy 12y ago
> Well, the article states that it wasn't illegal wherever that took place either. Somehow 'not illegal' is considered 'a grey area' though It's my observation that anything that is "not illegal" in the US now means "We'll find a creative way to stop you doing it".