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>'...it's 2 minutes only if your problem is solvable with Xyz...' Isn't that self-evident? It's a 'Hello World!' example for gaudi, not a guide, tutorial of e

>'...it's 2 minutes only if your problem is solvable with Xyz...' Isn't that self-evident? It's a 'Hello World!' example for gaudi, not a guide, tutorial of even a quick start for gaudi much less Docker.

huhtenberg 12y ago
Then by the same extent main() { printf("Hello world!\n"); } is a working native app in C that I built in just 5 seconds. How is it notable?
- jeffbr13 12y ago
  It's notable if you've never written a C program before, and have no idea what even a minimum valid program would look like.
  - huhtenberg 12y ago
    Yeah, but that's not how an average C program looks like, and the fact that I was able to cook this up in several seconds is absolutely meaningless at best and seriously misleading at worst.
    - toki5 12y ago
      The two have different scopes -- you guys aren't really comparing fairly here. To someone who's never done it before, "building a working web application with 3 docker containers" -- no matter what that application does or doesn't do -- might sound much harder than it is to get started. Comparing a ham sandwich to a roasted chicken isn't at all appropriate here -- it's more like comparing a ham sandwich to a gourmet bistro sandwich, where, to a beginner, a ham sandwich is a great starting point, because he learns about the very basics and can expand from there. The value isn't in the end product here; it's in the first steps toward an end product and teaching people that it's not as befuddling as it might sound. It's not misleading and it's absolutely not meaningless.
- incision 12y ago
  >'How is it notable?' I'm not sure I follow. Has this been some sort veiled 'Why is this on the front page?' gripe from the start? Anyway, each is notable as an effective hello world program [1]. A starting point that concisely demonstrates the conventions of the 'language' and provides the opportunity for a new user to intuitively build from it. Someone can take your C example and change the text, add another print statement then a third leading to a natural discovery of control structures and whatnot. Someone can take the gaudi example and change the parameters, add a second container then third leading to an natural discovery of configuration and automation functions gaudi is trying to promote itself for. It's pretty straightforward with the notable difference of a C being a well-established language that wouldn't generate the same interest as something relating to Docker (about a year old) or gaudi (less than a year old). 1: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hello_world_program http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hello_world_program

huhtenberg 12y ago

Then by the same extent main() { printf("Hello world!\n"); } is a working native app in C that I built in just 5 seconds. How is it notable?

jeffbr13 12y ago
It's notable if you've never written a C program before, and have no idea what even a minimum valid program would look like.
- huhtenberg 12y ago
  Yeah, but that's not how an average C program looks like, and the fact that I was able to cook this up in several seconds is absolutely meaningless at best and seriously misleading at worst.
  - toki5 12y ago
    The two have different scopes -- you guys aren't really comparing fairly here. To someone who's never done it before, "building a working web application with 3 docker containers" -- no matter what that application does or doesn't do -- might sound much harder than it is to get started. Comparing a ham sandwich to a roasted chicken isn't at all appropriate here -- it's more like comparing a ham sandwich to a gourmet bistro sandwich, where, to a beginner, a ham sandwich is a great starting point, because he learns about the very basics and can expand from there. The value isn't in the end product here; it's in the first steps toward an end product and teaching people that it's not as befuddling as it might sound. It's not misleading and it's absolutely not meaningless.
incision 12y ago
>'How is it notable?' I'm not sure I follow. Has this been some sort veiled 'Why is this on the front page?' gripe from the start? Anyway, each is notable as an effective hello world program [1]. A starting point that concisely demonstrates the conventions of the 'language' and provides the opportunity for a new user to intuitively build from it. Someone can take your C example and change the text, add another print statement then a third leading to a natural discovery of control structures and whatnot. Someone can take the gaudi example and change the parameters, add a second container then third leading to an natural discovery of configuration and automation functions gaudi is trying to promote itself for. It's pretty straightforward with the notable difference of a C being a well-established language that wouldn't generate the same interest as something relating to Docker (about a year old) or gaudi (less than a year old). 1: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hello_world_program http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hello_world_program