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I actually submitted the article to initiate such a talk. The article failed to convince me completely, but it did make me think about the place of slide-in men

by Jacqued 12y ago

I actually submitted the article to initiate such a talk. The article failed to convince me completely, but it did make me think about the place of slide-in menus, since I consider hiding UI elements to be generally bad practice.

pistle 12y ago
I've seen the doppleganger of this article a number of days ago and both drag out some form of nav bar as the alt. Really??? A nav bar, let alone a sliding nav bar, is tabs or an obese hamburger. We have been around this before. Tabbed desktop apps and tabbed web interfaces a la Amazon of the 90's. You know what this UI need? MORE TABS! The great unbundling will continue as small screens and human eyes can only deal with so much info per inch. I don't want to artificially engage with your A/B-optimized application. I want it to get the one or very few small things done that I need done. I don't want time sinks. I don't want to aimlessly dig through ambiguous icons looking for digital delight that you decided was unworthy of special treatment. If you are playing games with tricking humans into using your app, I question the value you are creating with your app. There's a thing in my hand and it should be about the size of half a banana. If I want to see another half a banana, I'll put this one down and pick the other one up. I have one hand, two eyes, and a hankering for bananas! Show me pretty bananas!
- ulisesrmzroche 12y ago
  I honestly have no clue what you said and I don't think anyone else did either.
  - pistle 12y ago
    3 other people may have. Let me simplify for you. Hamburger hate is silly and a waste of time. The "better" alternatives have been done multiple times and keep getting ousted for their fundamental flaws. The value being espoused is "how to waste the user's time in your app." That's doubly wasteful. Stop creating artificial engagement and stop fighting the burger.
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    - ulisesrmzroche 12y ago
      Doubly wasteful is making me click twice to get to what I want. and everyone, stop calling it a burger, that's a wave. This is like early-human mythology, it should be ingrained in there somewhere.
205guy 12y ago
I've often thought that the HN submission form should support both the link and a short comment. If the submitter can frame the context of the submission, doesn't that help the discussion?

by Jacqued 12y ago

pistle 12y ago

I've seen the doppleganger of this article a number of days ago and both drag out some form of nav bar as the alt. Really??? A nav bar, let alone a sliding nav bar, is tabs or an obese hamburger. We have been around this before. Tabbed desktop apps and tabbed web interfaces a la Amazon of the 90's. You know what this UI need? MORE TABS! The great unbundling will continue as small screens and human eyes can only deal with so much info per inch. I don't want to artificially engage with your A/B-optimized application. I want it to get the one or very few small things done that I need done. I don't want time sinks. I don't want to aimlessly dig through ambiguous icons looking for digital delight that you decided was unworthy of special treatment. If you are playing games with tricking humans into using your app, I question the value you are creating with your app. There's a thing in my hand and it should be about the size of half a banana. If I want to see another half a banana, I'll put this one down and pick the other one up. I have one hand, two eyes, and a hankering for bananas! Show me pretty bananas!

ulisesrmzroche 12y ago
I honestly have no clue what you said and I don't think anyone else did either.
- pistle 12y ago
  3 other people may have. Let me simplify for you. Hamburger hate is silly and a waste of time. The "better" alternatives have been done multiple times and keep getting ousted for their fundamental flaws. The value being espoused is "how to waste the user's time in your app." That's doubly wasteful. Stop creating artificial engagement and stop fighting the burger.
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  - ulisesrmzroche 12y ago
    Doubly wasteful is making me click twice to get to what I want. and everyone, stop calling it a burger, that's a wave. This is like early-human mythology, it should be ingrained in there somewhere.

205guy 12y ago

I've often thought that the HN submission form should support both the link and a short comment. If the submitter can frame the context of the submission, doesn't that help the discussion?