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Matt's reasons: 1. Lack of down-vote means vocal minorities are disproportionately represented. 2. Votes on comments are used to express agreement
by rawland 12y ago
Matt's reasons:
1. Lack of down-vote means vocal minorities are
disproportionately represented.
2. Votes on comments are used to express agreement
or disagreement rather than value, perhaps because
many people simply cannot see the difference
between the two.
3. The community is full of ideologues to the point
where the comments are most often just predictable
talking points being regurgitated ad nauseum.
4. The community is often snobbish and out of touch
with how the other half lives.
5. It's a time suck.
6. It removes comments from where they should be,
on the destination site.
7. It reduces blogging time.
Food for thought... How can we improve?
Disclaimer: I'm a devotee of HN; It's home, but also I'm a devotee of critical thinking.
- diminish 12y ago> Votes on comments are used to express agreement or disagreement rather than value, perhaps because many people simply cannot see the difference between the two Does that mean that we better down-vote whenever we see a comment does not add value to the topic?
- RivieraKid 12y agoNo, only comments with a sufficiently negative value should be downvoted.
- davidw 12y agoThis tweet really expresses one fundamental problem of sites like this: https://twitter.com/ziobrando/status/289635060758507521 https://twitter.com/ziobrando/status/289635060758507521 "The bullshit asymmetry: the amount of energy needed to refute bullshit is an order of magnitude bigger than to produce it."
- dasil003 12y agoThere should be a corollary about Internet trolling, and why analog trolling never really scaled in the same way.
- RivieraKid 12y ago> 1. Lack of down-vote means vocal minorities are disproportionately represented. Allow downvotes for submissions. > 2. Votes on comments are used to express agreement or disagreement rather than value, perhaps because many people simply cannot see the difference between the two. Downvoter has to write a short explanation of the downvote. He's warned that admins can ban people who downvote just because they disagree. > 5. It's a time suck. Make the site faster, it's really slow.
- RivieraKid 12y agoReason for the downvote?
- mkesper 12y agoMake the site faster, it's really slow. That doesn't avoid procrastinating. Besides, HN is fast, many linked sites are slow and bloated...
- danielweber 12y agoSeveral times a week I find HN takes 10-20 seconds to load. (This leads to paranoia about slow-banning or hell-banning.)
- danielweber 12y agoI heard the Old Ones say that, before my time, there used to be a downvote button, but it went away because the tribalism led to, e.g., non-Apple stories being voted off the front page. I rarely hit the upvote button because it feels broken to me without a downvote. Maybe a handful of articles a week. Flag maybe once or twice a week. Although I liberally use the upvote buttons in comments.